18 July 2012 by Published in: Battlefield preservation 5 comments

Reader Tim Ferry took my call to action to save Fleetwood Hill to heart, for which I am extremely grateful. Tim has left several comments on my last post, which I present in the order received. The last one’s a doozie….

I have not posted here in a long time, but do follow your blog more than most sites. You have been a strong and consistent part of bringing this battlefield to the forefront in many preservationists and Civil War enthusiast’s minds. I am very greatful I had the opportunity to tour all parts of this battlefield with you a few years back. I am a member of the CWT and have been a member since the days of the defunct APCWS. I’m a native Virginian and value our historic sites to a high degree. Brandy Station means so much for Culpeper County, Virginia, the Mid-Atlantic, the United States and in all it pertains, educates and brings to life.

You have honored us all Eric in giving this property the good fight. “The Lake” issue was an embarassment to all Americans who value, cherish and honor our past. If this property is truly for purchase and can be reasoned to exist as a real addition to the existing Brandy Station battlefield property as a saved central part, then it should be purchased and saved! The Brandy Station Foundation should have started and lead a charge already. I will gladly be in the charge with you Eric and give out of my wallet with healthy donation.

Let’s get this right! This is “good ground”, the right ground, the centrally important ground! Let’s make this saved ground!!

I want to make it quite clear that I am not doing any of this for accolades such as those stated by Tim above. Seeing that McMansion demolished will be all of the reward I ever want or need. I appreciate Tim’s sentiment, but it’s not necessary, and it’s definitely not why I’m fighting so hard to save the sacred ground at Fleetwood Hill.

Here’s the second comment:

One other item. I have read about, listen on the radio and seen on local TV the attacks to this historic property going on more than twenty years. My grandmother lived in Culpeper for several years back in the late 80?s early 90?s, escaping the crowds of her native Arlington, VA outside the DC metro area. Everytime I visited her, I’d watch TV, pick up the local news and some corporation or yahoo was trying to build a race track or something on these wonderful historic, vistic views. For the life of me I cannot understand why the BSF has not been more envolved on this issue and made the charge to protect this central part of the battle. I have had the opportunity to walk and drive this battlefield land for over twenty years. The major parts are saved thanks to people like Bud Hall and many others. It is both wonderful and thrilling to walk this land, vision what transpired across those fields and try to identify with the tumult, acts of humanity and desperation that gave way in events that unfolded here. Goose bumps!

Brandy Station means allot to me. It needs people that care. It seems the BSF and it’s leadership doesn’t care. This is not a local heritage issue, but an American issue. Let’s save this place to the last blade of grass!

Tim had no idea just how right he was when he said that the BSF and its worthless leadership don’t care, but you’ll have to wait for that. Here’s the third comment:

I just sent an e-mail to Tom Gilmore and Jim Campi on the subject. I’m sure they already know, but I also included the realtors site.

I also sent an e-mail to the realtor and asked if she could please make a deal and sell this to the CWT for historic preservation. The listing price is almost more than 2 million.

Tim’s far from the only one to contact the Civil War Trust about this in response to my posts, and I am now advised that the CWT is working on this. Thank you to Tim and everyone else for doing what was required to get the attention of the appropriate officers of the Civil War Trust. Tim’s note to the realtor, however, provided proof positive of what we all knew: that McKinney and his do nothing board have failed to do anything to try to take advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to save Fleetwood Hill:

I got this back in an e-mail from the realtor.

Good afternoon Tim:

Thank you for your interest in the Fleetwood Hill property at Fleetwood Heights. I agree that it would be an exceptional addition to the Civil War Trust holdings. I informed the Brandy Station chapter of its availability as soon as it was listed for sale. If you have additional contacts that you would like for me to reach please let me know and I will gladly do so right

I have a beautiful full color brochure that I can send to you if you would like. Let me know.

And again thank you for contacting me.

Christiane Lindsay

I added the emphasis to the quotation above, not Ms. Lindsay.

And there you have it. McKinney and the board of appeasers have quite predictably done absolutely NOTHING.

Thank you for all you have done, Tim. Your biggest contribution is probably the one you’re least aware of. We appreciate your efforts very much.

As another of my readers so appropriately put it, Mr. McKinney and the board of appeasers, it’s long past time for you to lead, follow or get out of the way. Since you’re incapable of leading and unwilling to follow, then do the right thing: resign and step aside before this opportunity is lost forever.

Scridb filter


  1. Keith Toney
    Thu 19th Jul 2012 at 10:50 am

    Mr. Ferry said it very well when he pointed out this is not a local or even CW heritage issue, this piece of land is of vital importance to American heritage. Admittedly I have not been a dues paying member of BSF for far too long, a situation it appears I need to amend.

    This is too important an issue and opportunity to leave in the hands of the BSF and hopefully CWT will jump on it. I’m sure you will keep us all informed on that and other fronts, and for that we all say thank you. In the meantime,maybe you could do a post to let everyone know how to go about joining BSF and, more importantly, the process for voting the current board out. It would seem the old-fashioned democratic approach of change is going to be called for since I seriously doubt the present board will, unlike R.E. Lee, offer their resignations for the greater good.

    In any event, I will certainly offer whatever support I can. Even if I didn’t care about Brandy Station, which as you know I do care very deeply, anyone who has ever spent more than five minutes with Bud Hall owes it to him to do whatever they can for this property he has spent so many years battling for. I know Bud wouldn’t want me or anyone else saying that, but true is true and facts are facts.

  2. Tim Ferry
    Sat 21st Jul 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Thanks Eric! Those statements from the realtor concerning the BSF caught me as well. They are very telling. If this property is not saved, it will be a major, glowing error, based solely on their inaction. I’m just wondering if they can be disolved and a new proper management group of the lands, interpretation and a visitor center can be created. What would it take to have this land created into a national battlefield and added to the F&S National Military Park?

    Below is a nice notice I got back from Jim at the CWT. They have rallied forces.



    Thank you for your message – and for sharing the realtor information about the property. We share your concern about the vital need to preserve this hallowed ground.

    We have been in communication with the landowner as well as preservationists in the Culpeper area. It is our sincere hope that we can forge an agreement with the landowner to purchase this property and add it to the nearly 1,800 acres of battlefield land preserved by the Trust at Brandy Station.

    As you can imagine, we cannot discuss ongoing private discussions with landowners to acquire land.
    But rest assured – we are on it!

    Again, thank you – and thanks for your membership in the Civil War Trust!


  3. Rick Allen
    Mon 23rd Jul 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Tim Ferry is about as knowledgable a student of the War in Virginia as I have ever met and still I have the sneaking suspicion that I only scratched the surface of his wisdom in our few conversations together. Tim also happens to be a helluva guy, so I’m happy to see him chomping away at the bit knowing his dedication. I wish you guys the best of success in this venture as its certainly a worthy one.

    This looks entirely winnable and as Eric so ably stated, few places if any have the pedigree of these particular slopes. Does anyone know why this guy is suddenly selling?

    It would be a pleasure to see that house demolished.

  4. Mon 23rd Jul 2012 at 4:27 pm


    He’s selling because he’s had enough of being in the crosshairs. The remediation of the Lake Troilo damage had to have cost him several hundred thousand dollars, and he’s tired of the constant sniping. It’s not a huge surprise.


  5. Rick Allen
    Mon 23rd Jul 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Well, that must be a very satisfying answer for you. Good show brotha. 🙂

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