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Comments on: George B. McClellan and the Cavalry https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Will Keene https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-365 Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:59:24 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-365 “The fact that there were exactly three casualties in the Union cavalry out of more than 13,000 suffered in the Battle of Fredericksburg is a pretty good reflection of just how badly he did.”

I dont know anything about Burnside’s use of cavalry, but I also dont folow your logic here. Are casualties a measure of good generalship?

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-360 Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:09:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-360 Dave,

It was more like 5,000 or 6,000, but your point is nevertheless very well-taken. Thanks for pointing that out.

Eric

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By: Dave https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-358 Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:54:22 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-358 Second paragraph, last sentence; “fit for anything”

sorry ’bout that.

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By: Dave https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-357 Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:52:36 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-357 It takes (roughly) about ten pounds of grain and ten pounds of hay to keep an active horse fit. These are rough figures, but that’s in the ballpark. If Pope expected his Cavalry to be able to “live off the land” and conduct extended operations at the same time then he was a d*mned fool.

You can get away with foraging for your forage for a short time, but horses can and will lose weight and condition rapidly. This is a guess, but I’d think no more than two to three weeks of operations under these conditions before the animals wouldn’t be fit anything.

I have no idea how many horses Pope’s Cavalry had, but figure at least ten thousand? Foraging for that many horses would be a full time job in and of itself.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-342 Sat, 07 Jan 2006 04:09:06 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-342 Bob,

Thanks for your kind words–I’m pleased to hear that you’re enjoying the book and that you find something worthwhile in it.

Funny you should mention this–my buddy J. D. Petruzzi and I had a discussion about covering the fighting in the Loudoun Valley in the fall of 1862 just this afternoon. As for the Federal cavalry on the Peninsula, my friend Bob O’Neill has been working on just that for some time.

Eric

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By: Bob https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-341 Sat, 07 Jan 2006 04:04:59 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-341 Eric, I’m near the end of The Union Cavalry Comes of Age and have enjoyed it very much. I don’t think the story was told well at all previously. Prompted by your post, I hope that you’ll undertake a work on the Union cavalry’s more formative period priot to 1863. There’s a lot there that similarly hasn’t been studied in depth. For example, we read a lot of brief mentions of George Bayard and how well he was regarded, but the historians have generally ignored him up to now. And a more in-depth study of Mac’s use of cavalry would be a contribution, including the activities on the Peninsula and why it evolved differently than that of the South. It wasn’t for want of qualified leaders. I think you’d find a lot of interest on the subject.

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By: Will https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-333 Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:17:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-333 s army." Tom made a similar remark. I question this. Compare the cavalry units in Pope's army with those under Pleasanton in Maryland. I think you will find barely any overlap. Compare Pelasanton's units to those that served on the peninsula and I think you will find they match. When Mac marched across Maryland, the bulk of what had been Pope's cavalry remained with the forces defending Washington and operated in nothern Virginia.]]> Eric wrote: “In fairness most of the cavalry that was with Mac had come from Pope’s army.” Tom made a similar remark.

I question this. Compare the cavalry units in Pope’s army with those under Pleasanton in Maryland. I think you will find barely any overlap. Compare Pelasanton’s units to those that served on the peninsula and I think you will find they match. When Mac marched across Maryland, the bulk of what had been Pope’s cavalry remained with the forces defending Washington and operated in nothern Virginia.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-331 Fri, 06 Jan 2006 02:52:06 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-331 Bob,

In fairness most of the cavalry that was with Mac had come from Pope’s army, and it really was in absolutely wretched condition. Read the reports from Bayard and Buford during the Second Bull Run Campaign, and you will see what I mean. Pope’s insistence that the cavalry live off the land combined with overwork left it in terrible and inefficient shape.

The truth is that Mac used it rather well just before Antietam–see Crampton’s Gap if you need an example–but seems to have dropped the ball a bit on the actual day of the battle.

That’s my take, anyway.

Eric

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By: Bob Fugate https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-327 Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:18:25 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-327 Remember that in the days after Antietam and just prior to Mac’s removal from command, one of the controversies that exasperated Lincoln and Stanton was Mac’s insistence that the current poor state of his cavalry’s horses made more vigorous movement or pursuit of Lee impractical (when Lincoln famously wondered what they’d been doing that would have tired them out). Not taking sides in that dispute (although I’d give the benefit of the doubt to Mac, despite some historians’ snide view that it was just another excuse to delay action), it does further explain why Mac might not have used his cavalry more fully during the Antietam Campaign itself and up to the battle as you suggest.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89&cpage=1#comment-325 Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:30:45 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=89#comment-325 Well, I’ve never claimed to be an authority on Antietam. 🙂

Thanks for setting me straight.

Eric

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