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Comments on: More on Cedar Creek https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Linda W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-34617 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:19:52 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-34617 Thanks for publishing details on this dispute. I saw mention of it in a local paper but this additional info is enlightening.

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By: John Fox https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-29649 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:47:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-29649 Several comments from a local person who lives in Winchester. I also am a CW historian who has followed this unfolding disaster closely. Point #1 -the local preservation partnerships [Preserve Frederick, Belle Grove/ National Historic Trust] did try to negotiate w/ Carmeuse and were rebuffed repeatedly. Preserve Frederick then advanced a plan to the quarry to increase their digging on the south end instead of the north end where the core battlefield exists. This was rebuffed. Point # 2 – the Frederick County planning commission recommended 2 years before that the rezoning be turned down because of too many unanswered questions about impacts to residents, town of Middletown and the battlefield. The planning commision in 2008 still recommended it be turned down and yet the supervisors voted it in. Point #3 – The CCBF went behind the other preservation partners backs and accepted a last minute deal from Carmeuse in exchange for 8 acres of non-core battlefield on the southend. Point #3 – after what CCBF claims will be extensive archaelogical studies all artifacts are to be turned over to CCBF for their museum and I presume will be put on display. Will this include the bones of the soldiers, both North & South, who are certainly still buried along the NW side of the battlefield where Custer’s charge punched into the left flank of Gordon’s troops? Thanks to CCBF’s treachery this core battlefield area will become a huge hole so a foreign company, yes Carmeuse is Belgian owned, can siphon profits off the backs of American war dead. Point #4 – The Civil War Preservation Trust offered at the last minute to broker a deal for preservation groups to buy this property from Carmeuse. However this seemed to have little effect on the 4-3 supervisors vote and the wildcat maneuver by the CCBF certainly didn’t help anything. CCBF board members can spin this anyway they want, but the score at the end of the game is the same. Like the Black Sox scandal they helped to throw the World Series to the bad guys.

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By: Nick https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-28924 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:47:09 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-28924 As part of the B&O Railroad Historical Society’s 2006 Annual Convention we toured the quarry operations in Middletown. There’s a lot of money invested at that site to get the limestone out of the ground, and it’s coming out weather or not the battlefield is there. The steel industry needs it, the aggregate industry needs it and the company needs it to repay its investment.

Unfortunately vast tracts of the valley north of Middletown sit on some of the richest deposits of limestone in the US. This won’t be the last time that people kick up a fuss as a company decides to use its mineral rights. Wait until they start getting near the pricey houses in Berkeley and Jefferson Co’s, WV.

I grimace at it, but I think the Cedar Creek folks took the best deal they could get. It’s a bummer, but I can sympathize.

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By: Cedar Creek Rantings « To the Sound of the Guns https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-28916 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:08:33 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-28916 […] Eric Wittenberg has offered a couple of posts concerning the blow to preservation efforts at Cedar Creek.  As most of the details are related on his site, long story short, the Cedar Creek Battlefield […]

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By: Tom Thompson https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-28915 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:29:30 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-28915 Eric,
I see the Golden Rule of politics at work here,,,”The folks with the gold make the rules”. With $300 million worth of resources to exploit it was most likely going to get exploited.

A line drawn in the sand can get you run over by a bull dozer. Unless there is some realistic precident to indicate that lines in the sand will not be breeched, and multi million dollar resources will be set aside, then it makes sense to grab the best deal available.

It appears that the issue was resolved very late in the final quarter. What negotiation can possibly take place after the zoning board rules?

The race is not always to the swift, but that’s the way to bet!
Tom

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By: Rick Allen https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-28914 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:43:19 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=790#comment-28914 So what is the translation of that? Who gave up what to whom and why?

I’m not sure I am understanding.

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