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Comments on: I Don’t Get This…. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Archives and Technology « To the Sound of the Guns https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-27118 Tue, 27 May 2008 17:23:35 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-27118 […] and Technology Last week Eric Wittenberg posted a swell rant on is blog regarding the use of Google book search particularly with public domain resources.  The […]

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By: Karl https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26816 Thu, 22 May 2008 16:57:05 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26816 I’m not sure if screenshots is the same as what I am going to say but try this.

Hit print screen.

Then go and open paint.
Select edit and then paste.
Then, use the cutting tool (dotted box) and select the portion of the page you want to have and select file and then New.
Don’t save the old document.
Then paste again in the new doc.
Then hit file and print and there you have it.
You can resize what you print by changing to landscape and margins etc.

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By: Caswain https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26809 Thu, 22 May 2008 12:46:28 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26809 Keith, I’m not familiar with what that practice is called when applied to Amazon. But when used through Google, its known as “Google-driving,” in the same sense of locating unsecured wireless networks is called “wardriving.”

I get to work with a lot of Knowledge Management types in my trade. Even attended many seminars on the topic. If you listen close, the approach to KM is often sold with the same or similar catch phrases as used by Marxists! Information belongs to everyone…. Each person should have access to the material they need….All should freely and willingly contribute the fruits of their labor….. Argg!

I once interrupted a briefer to pose this question. If I’m a junior level employee, but devise some wonderful technique that I’ve mastered, why should I share that mastery with the senior level employees? After all, my value to the company is measured in marketable skills and tenure. If I don’t have the later, I must sell the former.

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By: Keith Yoder https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26778 Thu, 22 May 2008 02:47:38 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26778 It is true that it takes time and effort but Amazon’s search features actually do leave the entire book available to the determined user – they have a rather large loophole in the function that limits the number of pages one can preview. I know this because I was able to “preview” (and save and print out) virtually an entire book I was interested in with only a couple hours work (we are talking 100+ pages). I have only done this only once as it seemed a bit unethical but I was rather caught up with effort and was curious if I could do it.

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26685 Wed, 21 May 2008 03:18:07 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26685 Chuck,

You certainly have a point. I guess my point was that even with a random search feature, it “virtually” puts an entire copyrighted book out there on the web. Just rubs me wrong, I guess – as it does Eric and others. But no, there’s certainly nothing wrong with quoting from a book no matter how it’s obtained. You’re right. I guess I didn’t make my point very well.

LOL Cas, and you have a great point as well. Hhmm, it seems as though someone HAS recently changed the focus of Farnsworth’s Charge, eh? 🙂 Your logic makes a great deal of sense, though. I guess if you personalize it – say, you own a public domain book, perhaps a rare one – any use of it by others would be under your control. Same with a library or other repository. Can’t deny them the rights you might like to have yourself.

Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s annoying 🙂

J.D.

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By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26655 Tue, 20 May 2008 22:39:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26655 I use the Amazon function and appreciate it as it keeps me from buying books that don’t have the information I seek even if they cover the period and/or the area which MIGHT include the subject matter.

I suppose that one could somehow spend hours “downloading” a book by virtue of that very useful tool, but the HOURS it would take to do that would probably cost more than buying the book used. I’ve bought desired books for 99¢. I’m not concerned that they are “brand new” as long as they are legible and I don’t have to glue the spine back on. I would certainly never waste my time trying to “craft” a book from individual pages. The effort of finding how to do so (you can only go so far “turning pages” before you are prevented from going further) would be more ‘expensive’ in time and effort than buying the book at full price!

Of course, there are always those who for the sake of some twisted rationalization would rather work harder doing something illegal or immoral than to do something right – politics is full of such folks!

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By: Caswain https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26643 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:36:38 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26643 JD, it is not so much ownership in the (can I say this on a lawyer’s blog?) legal sense, but in the physical sense. The originator doesn’t mind distribution, just doesn’t want it altered from the original. Technology has sort of outpaced us primates. In the old analog days, I couldn’t really change the text in your book. White out and an Olivetti typewriter would only go so far.

Now days if I can get a copy of your book in digital format (PDF, Word, or even pure digital image), I can make it look like Farnsworth charged into the middle of Pickett’s Division on July 3. Won’t hold up in court, but would be enough to annoy the average person. Might even sell some newspapers.

Basically some sort of tamper protection of the artifact, or validation of authenticity. Some trade texts call it a form of non-repudiation, but I think that a misuse of the term. Just unfortunately serves to hinder the use of a public resource. Another example of the miscreants making life hard on us honest folks.

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By: Chuck https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26642 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:58:41 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26642 JD,
Devil’s Advocate………
If someone is doing research and they use your book for a source, and footnote it, what is wrong with that?
I am with you on not putting entire books on the web if they have copyright, but it sounds like you don’t want anyone to source your material at all unless they actually buy the book.
What if I copy a page out of your book for it’s source in a research project at the library? As long as I credit where the source came from, that’s OK right? I don’t really need to buy the book, do I?

Chuck

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26640 Tue, 20 May 2008 13:36:18 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26640 Could be, Cas – perhaps there’s a “digital” ownership or rights, separate from the original document or book itself. Seems weird that a public domain book in a particular library becomes a different entity once it’s digitalized. The library can restrict duplication of it. Therefore, the original book and its digital image are two distinct entities and carry different restrictions.
J.D.

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By: Caswain https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763&cpage=1#comment-26639 Tue, 20 May 2008 12:42:33 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=763#comment-26639 I’d have to see the actual “artifacts” (that’s one of those Knowledge Management words) you are looking at, but do they may have digital rights management invoked. We’ve had to do that with a lot of public domain government documents to comply with several regulations. Seems the government is OK with something like a military report from the field, once declassified, out on the web. What they don’t want is that same document to get “edited” and re-posted on the web. In their perspective, that’s how things conspiracy theories get started. And in this day and age, all you need is someone handy with the various editing tools, and you have an instant Roswell.

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