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Comments on: Another Long Day…. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-20879 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:45:56 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699#comment-20879 No, Mosby wasn’t a communist. It was the Union who had its fill of socialist types and more than a few Marxists into the bargain, I believe. Remember, the South did not get anywhere near the number of European immigrants that came into the North. And from Europe came many socialists and communists, some obscure, but many less so. For instance, Union General Joseph Weydemeyer was referred to by Karl Marx as “My friend” and was a fellow member with Marx and Engels in the London Communist League. With the assistance of Marx, Weydemeyer was introduced to Charles A. Dana, who would become the Assistant Secretary of War in the Lincoln Administration; Dana was a close friend of Marx and assisted Weydemeyer in publishing various communist journals in the United States. And there were others – a LOT of others. Many “communal” organizations both religious (like the Shakers) and philosophical carried strong socialist leanings in the North but there isn’t time to go into the matter here.

As for the raid itself, I will wait for Eric’s book to opine on that, but I always wondered why Dahlgren was one place and Kilpatrick was elsewhere. Certainly it seems that Kilpatrick had the good sense to keep the larger numbers with him. In any event, he at least survived though I cannot say that was necessarily a good thing.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-20707 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:56:07 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699#comment-20707 Stosh,

It was a first-rate trip. Boy, I was tired last night.

The prosthetic ended up in the hands of one of Mosby’s guys, a man named Ballard. The irony is, of course, stunning.

Eric

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By: Stan O'Donnell https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-20628 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:58:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699#comment-20628 Eric,

You seem to make it a habit of wearing people out.

Man!~ I’ll bet that was one whoopass rampage!

Did you guys ever find out who got Mr. D’s prosthetic limb/appendage?

Please tell me it wasn’t one of those Mosby knotheads!

???? Damn Presbyteryian limbsuckers.
Kiddin’ Val. Wasn’t Mosby a communist?

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-20541 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:54:12 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699#comment-20541 Val,

While every word of that is true, you’re referring to the wrong raid. We were focusing on the Kilpatrick-Dahlgren Raid of February-March 1864. However, old pal Horace Mewborn, who is THE authority on all things Mosby, was along and told that story.

Eric

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By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-20540 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:45:05 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=699#comment-20540 Yup! Kilpatrick and his group attacked Beaver Dam Station and did some damage. They also captured a single young Confederate cavalryman who was dozing off in the heat while waiting for the train. He had sent his horse on to camp and was waiting to take “the cars” to see his family.

A Union officer named Glazier later wrote in his book “Three Years in the Federal Cavalry” of the capture and that the young man was sent on to Old Capitol Prison where, ten days later, he was one of those participating in the first exchange of prisoners. The young man was exchanged for a Union lieutenant but although he had identified himself to his captives as a captain, he was only a private soldier, so the Rebs got the best “rank wise” – and in many other ways – on THAT exchange.

Furthermore, on the boat to the exchange point, the man noticed the movement of federal troops in the area and learned from the boat’s captain – who was a Confederate sympathizer – that these were the troops of General Burnside going to reinforce Pope. When he landed, the young soldier requested of Judge Ould that he be passed through quickly because he had news for General Lee. Making his way in the August heat to Lee’s headquarters over 12 miles away, he gave his information to Lee who sent word to Jackson to attack Pope before Burnside’s reinforcements could reach him which resulted in the battle of Cedar Mountain.

The young man then returned to his position on the staff of Confederate General J. E. B. Stuart where he was Stuart’s favorite scout and intimate friend. He had been at Beaver Dam on his way to see General Jackson with a note of introduction from Stuart because he wanted a few men to try his hand at harassing Pope’s army behind his lines, attacking communications, destroying supplies and generally committing havoc. Stuart had not wished to part with any of his own men for such a dangerous scheme, but he thought that Jackson, who had suggested just such type of warfare, might be willing to provide a few infantrymen to participate in this bold and, frankly, hopeless endeavor.

Of course, Kilpatrick prevented the young man from ever reaching Jackson except in such a way as to provide him with the information that helped precipitate the battle of Cedar Mountain. Who knows? Had Kilpatrick failed to undertake the raid, the young man might have reached Jackson, but the information would not and the matter might have ended differently.

In a way, therefore, Kilpatrick’s raid precipitated far more than the destruction of one railroad depot. It changed the lives of many people including one Confederate cavalryman whose bold and reckless scheme was eventually given Stuart’s blessing in December of 1862 when he bestowed nine men on his friend and favorite scout to “try his hand at harassing the Yankees.”

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