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Comments on: The Neo-Confederates Are Alive and Well, Part 2 https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Lee Hodges https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14324 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:26:14 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14324 What pisses me off about so many of the neo-Confederates is their seeming need to make everyone else adopt their beliefs. Why can’t they just say they are honoring their Confederate ancestors and leave it at that? I have a video called “Echoes of the Blue and Gray” which shows footage of Union and Confederate veterans at joint reunions, including the Gettysburg reunions of 1913 and 1938. These men are not beating each other over the head, trying to convince each other of the righteousness of their respective causes (I guess there were some who did do that, but they generally didn’t go to the joint reunions in the first place). If real life survivors of the Civil War managed to act so mature, why do so many of their descendants have to be so childish? Even aside from the slavery issue, it should be obvious that given the stunning success of the modern United States as a nation, most non-Southern (and many Southern) Americans will seriously question the idea that the country should have split in two in the 1860s. Yet the neo-Confederates seem to expect everyone to swallow their viewpoint hook, line, and sinker.

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By: Dave Woodbury https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14322 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:50:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14322 I initially had high regard for Pelican, when they came out with Jerry Potter’s book on the Sultana disaster. But the Kennedy books, and one or two others, make it unthinkable for me personally to ever consider submitting a manuscript to them. I would not want to have something of mine associated that stuff in a catalog, or on a website, or on a dealer’s table at a bookshow (easy for me to say, since I don’t have a manuscript to send to anybody).

David

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By: Jim Schmidt https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14321 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:21:30 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14321 Thanks for the replies, guys. My experience w/ Pelican was very much like Michael’s. That is, very encouraging e-mails from the editor including “we’re working up the contract, etc.” followed by a “I’m sorry, but he (the publisher) thought your book was about something else.” That’s what made me think that the contract being pulled might have been motivated by “certain sympathies.” I had already been a little leary based on reviews of books (as Eric mentioned) but of course I had the conceit that I could naturally turn their ship around.

No matter…I’ve got a great partner now in Edinborough Press.

All My Best,

Jim

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14320 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:02:37 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14320 THE absolute worst Civil War book I’ve ever seen was published by Pelican, by the way. It can be found here, and which has been the subject of a number of rants by me on this blog in its very early days.

Eric

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By: Drew W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14319 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:53:26 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14319 BTW, by ‘outweighed’ I meant to them, not us. I think we would all agree that the Kennedy books are a significant black mark against the publisher.

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By: Drew W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14318 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:51:29 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14318 That’s a good question, Jim. Seeing as they’re still all over the place in major bookstores, the Kennedy books are probably a bit of a cash cow for them. But is this outweighed by harm to their reputation or their ability to attract better manuscripts?….I don’t know. I am sort of uneasy including them on my publisher links because of the Kennedy books. Confederate-themed books do seem to dominate there, but on your question of ‘Yankee-centricity’, the recent Jim Lane bio they published is very sympathetic to the subject and his actions, so I don’t think one can maintain that they reject books simply on those grounds. The author’s Blunt bio presumably has the same tone. The Shelby book is quite evenhanded. There is a mix of craziness and levelheadedness in their catalog.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14317 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:49:43 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14317 Jim,

That makes two of us. In my mind, they’re the new White Mane.

Eric

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By: Michael Aubrecht https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14315 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:55:20 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14315 Jim, I had submitted the manuscript for my 3rd book which was more ‘Confederate-centric’ and was on the verge of a deal when they suddenly pulled out in the 11th hour. I wasted 6 months after they sent promising emails that made the deal look close. I even had an excellent review by the assigned reader. I was very surprised when they canceled. They said they were concerned about marketing the piece, which was fair. So I used my media contacts and acquired pledged press support with magazine, newspaper, and radio outlets. Unfortunately they said that they don’t reconsider works that have been rejected. It was a tad unprofessional in my opinion and they don’t return my emails anymore. Thankfully I’ve moved on to bigger pubs, but that stung for a while. As they do publish both Christian and Southern materials I thought I was a shoe-in w/ a Civil War Devotional titled “The Southern Cross”… Wrong! 🙂

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By: Jim Schmidt https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14314 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:30:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14314 Hope this question isn’t out-of-bounds, but based on the discussion of the Kennedys’ book, does that make you unlikely to approach Pelican as a publisher? I had approached them several years ago as a possibe outlet for my first book, but was treated poorly and have good reason to belive it had to do w/ a manuscript that was “Yankee-centric”…having seen more of their titles since then, I’d rather print a book at Kinko’s than at Pelican.

Best Regards,

Jim Schmidt

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By: Lee Hodges https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604&cpage=1#comment-14306 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:47:09 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=604#comment-14306 A lot of what’s in “The South Was Right” reminds me of the play “Springtime for Hitler” in the movie (and musical) “The Producers.” Although the Kennedys, unlike Mel Brooks, didn’t write their stuff for laughs, they might as well have because it’s just as over the top.

For me, the most hilarious part of all is when the Kennedys argue that slaves in the South were better off than free blacks in the North because according to the 1850 census records (why do they just look at this one census?) only one in 1,464 Southern slaves was “deaf, dumb, blind, insane, or idiotic” where as one in 506 free blacks in the North are recorded as being one of these things. But they also say that one in 1,000 whites, Northerners and Southerners, are listed this way in the census. So by their reasoning, it was better to be a black slave than a white person in pre-Civil War America! If I heard someone suggest that to me, I’d think the person should be committed to a mental institution!

Who knows, maybe it was better to be a Jew in Germany in 1939 than in the United States! We’ll have to look at the numbers of Jews in both countries who had physical or mental problems before we can say for sure 🙂

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