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Comments on: I’m Ready https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10550 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:20:00 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10550 Ethan,

Fortunately, no. Luckily, there was a bathroom at Traveller’s Rest. 🙂

Eric

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By: Ethan Rafuse https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10520 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:41:13 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10520 Eric:

1) It is actually spelled “Shepard”.

2) Al had to urinate in his suit before lift off for his suborbital flight. (They didn’t think the mission would last long enough for a full bladder to become an issue–but there were so many various holds in the countdown that fine May morning it did.) Hope you didn’t encounter THAT problem.

ESR

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By: Drew W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10466 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:51:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10466 I think a lot of people tend to carryover to the West the general eastern impression of the relative effectiveness of the Union vs. Confed. cavalry (i.e. parity in 1863 then gradual Union domination, etc.). From my own reading and research, I’ve always had the impression that Union cavalry was never inferior in the West, and often superior due to steeper initial advantages in training/discipline and equipment. While many fixate on Confederate raiders, it needs to be recognized that Western Federal cavalry raided all over creation from 1862 onward. While Confederates had to have a high percentage of cavalry in the West to patrol the vast areas opened up to union raiding after the Federal successes in 1862, I definitely agree with you, Dave, that the Confeds overdid it.

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By: Dave Powell https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10465 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:10:14 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10465 I believe the East Tennessee stuff is some of the most interesting and unexplored campaigning of the war, mostly for the logistics problems everyone faced there. The cumberland gap mess, the initial success Burnside had and the two-front nature of his war there, and Longstreet’s counter-effort are all significantly under-studied.

I also believe that holding East Tennessee feeds directly into the Western Theater CSA cavalry obsession – the region allowed them to keep launching raids into KY in the mistaken belief that they could accomplish real military objectives there. But again, that feeds into my wonder at how the Confederacy could willingly tie up 25% of their total manpower between the mountains and the west in poorly disciplined, badly trained cavalry organizations that contributed little extra combat power in too many cases. Frankly, the South could have fielded an extra infantry corps (10,000 men) at Corinth, Perryville, Murfreesboro, the Vicksburg fights, or Chickamauga if they had organized more rationally.

Dave Powell

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By: Drew W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10463 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:47:57 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10463 Dave,
I spotted a copy online for $50, but decided it didn’t interest me quite THAT much, esp. since it’s an unknown quantity. It was published by the town of Mosheim and was probably just sold locally. Another E. Tenn. book that sounds intriguing is David C. Smith’s “Campaign to nowhere: The results of General Longstreet’s move into upper East Tennessee”.

Drew

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By: Dave Powell https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10432 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:50:48 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10432 Drew,

RE: “Blue Springs” No, haven’t read it. I haven’t managed to find a copy while browsing, and I never remember to order it.:)

The truth is that from about late 62 until at least mid 64, Cav ops were a major focus in the west, unlike the east. In the east, there are a few major cav actions while the armies are static, but the not so much the constant pace.

In the west, there is always a raid going somewhere, and low-level skirmishing for control in places like Kentucky, West Tennessee, etc. I can think of a half-dozen raids by one side or the other that are very obscure, but worth covering. Morgan and Grierson are just the flashy ones.

Shelbyville is a single – very interesting, to be sure – facet of the Tullahoma campaign, which is dominated by mounted ops. Holly Springs also had a tremendous effect, and is worth examining.

Dave Powell

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By: Jack Dempsey https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10430 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:06:50 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10430 “Second team”? Led by “lesser soldiers” or “rejects” from out East? And a comment suggesting all talent went east? There were amazing and courageous Union raids out West–could a traditional focus on the East cause a lack of comparable renown? With so much conquered territory to safeguard, Union cavalry played a key role where not as necessary in the East. Grierson wasn’t talented? What about John H. Wilson (who went West from the East)? Sheridan cut his teeth out west with the 2d Michigan Cav and remained there til ’64. The western cavalry must have covered far more miles than the eastern, especially given their participation in Sherman’s ’64-’65 exploits. Much has been written about Forrest, but not much else. Mr. W, perhaps this suggests a crying need to do some works about the western horse soldiers who helped save the Union…

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By: Sam Elliott https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10428 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:49:42 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10428 I, too, have heard he was working on Atlanta, but I don’t recall where I got that information

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By: Andy Papen https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10427 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:06:45 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10427 I’ll just throw one more endorsement of Evans’ book out there; helluva book. And I’m not even a cavalry afficionado (full apologies to the owner of this blog!).

Did I hear a rumor awhile back that Evans might do a full length study of the Atlanta campaign as a whole? Maybe I just dreamt that up. If he gave the whole campaign the same detailed coverage as the cavalry raids south of the Chattahoochee, all I can say is…bring it on!

A.P.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438&cpage=1#comment-10424 Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:00:49 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=438#comment-10424 Dave,

I’m staying in Brentwood. 🙂

Thanks for the vote of confidence, guys.

To clarify…the Power Point is just photos of some of the officers I’m going to talk about. There are 24 slides. Folks like Morgan, Forrest, Stanley, Stoneman, Kilpatrick, McCook, Grierson, etc. I thought it might be good for folks to see photos of the people I will be talking about. Maybe it will keep them from falling asleep. 🙂

The talk covers only operations east of the Mississippi River. I have only an hour to cover the entire war. Trying to add the Trans-Mississippi would have been too much. As it is, I have to give a one over the world sort of analysis to things. If I try to do more, it will just be too damned much.

Sherman’s Horsemen is one the finest Civil War books ever written. What’s really remarkable about is that at 800 or so pages, it only covers half of the campaign. I can only hope that Mr. Evans finishes the job at some point. Truthfully, he should be doing the talk, not me.

My friend Greg Biggs–who is also on the program with me–has been bugging me for years to do a study of the Battle of Shelbyville, which was part of the Tullahoma Campaign. I just might tackle it one of these years. It was a visit to Monroe’s Crossroads that got me interested in it, and it may be that’s what Shelbyville requires, too.

Eric

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