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Comments on: What did Lincoln know, and when did he know it? https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-22766 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:26:31 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-22766 The answer is really rather simple. Signing “U. Dahlgren, Colonel” was the standard way for a field grade officer to sign official correspondence. It would be entirely normal to sign that way.

Eric

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By: Neal https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-22764 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:45:29 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-22764 What do you make of the fact that the signature was different than the way he signed any other document?

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By: Mac https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-840 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:16:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-840 Regarding the raid by Dahlgren:

Lincoln was a hands on politician and I am sure he knew all about the plan to burn and kill, as did his staff and generals.
Gasp! Gasp! Not possible! –you say. Well, go to your history books and read about Lincoln’s disregard for the writ of habeas corpus; which as a result, caused alot of clanking jail doors and almost caused the incarceration of the Maryland state legislature; had it not been for the intervention of General Scot. What’s the point? The point is:
if one can disregard the rule of law, one can certainly approve of the Dalhgren affair to include the murder of Jefferson Davis and the burning of Richmond.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-112 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:33:23 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-112 Christ,

It is entirely possible. It’s possible that Dahlgren added them later, although I doubt it. I tend to think it’s possible he was cowboying and told nobody.

Eric

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-111 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:32:26 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-111 Will,

There are lots of things that lead me to my conclusion.

There’s the passage from Marsena Patrick that Mike Peters cites. There’s a confirmation by a trooper who rode with Dahlgren. Most importantly, Virgil Carrington Jones had the photos of the documents checked out by a handwriting analyst before his book _Eight Hours Before Richmond_ was published in 1959, and the handwriting analyst, who had lots of examples of Dahlgren’s writing to compare it to (all of his letters to his father are in the Library of Congress), wrote that it was a match.

Eric

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By: Christ Liebegott https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-110 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:43:17 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-110 Eric,
Could it have been possible that the sentance regarding burning the city and killing Davis and cabinet was added AFTER Kilpatrick approved the orders? While I have little respect for Kilpatrick (and really could picture him giving such orders) it could have been Dalgren all along who wanted to play Northern super hero.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-109 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:28:27 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-109 Interesting point, Dave, and one I had not considered. Thanks for chiming in.

Meade also wrote to his wife that he hated hanging Ully Dahlgren out to dry but that he felt he had to do so for the good of the service.

Eric

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By: Will Hickox https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-108 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:04:23 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-108 Please take a look at fortyrounder.blogspot.com for an interesting perspective on the Dahlgren affair.

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By: Will Hickox https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-107 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:22:46 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-107 I would be interested in hearing the evidence that these documents were genuine. As I stated above, it seems unfathomable that Dahlgren could be so boneheaded. And was the “burning and killing” message really so complicated that Dahlgren would have to write it down in order to remind himself? Mind you, I concur in the belief that Stanton and Kilpatrick were probably not above such schemes, but based on the information presented in this post, I suspect a rebel propagandist at work.

Eric, what are your reasons for believing the papers are genuine? Did the handwriting match Dahlgren’s? Does the wording sound like other things he wrote? This is fascinating stuff.

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By: Will Hickox https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43&cpage=1#comment-106 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:13:16 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=43#comment-106 Hard to believe a “right stuff” guy like Colonel Dahlgren would be foolish enough to carry such inflammatory information on his person while on a dangerous mission deep behind enemy lines.

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