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Comments on: Trying to Sell Books https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10053 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:44:50 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10053 There are some very good ideas here, and I really appreciate the input from everyone. Thank you for taking the time to weigh in.

Eric

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10050 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:51:25 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10050 Don,

More great ideas, which we will follow up on. As for Amazon, we do get paid on those, yes – but they’re calculated by the distributor, and of course are with lower retail prices. In any case, money has to come back to the publisher before money goes to authors.

J.D.

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10049 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:49:27 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10049 Rob,

Great stuff. Eric and I are VERY fortunate in that we have a great publicity machine in Ted Savas and Sarah at Savas-Beatie LLC. Ted definitely promotes his books, and he’s always thinking. He pushes his authors to do everything possible and is constantly throwing out ideas. Ted only wants authors who will “work” their books, and it’s in everyone’s best interest to do so.

J.D.

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By: Rob Wick https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10048 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:56:24 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10048 What I forgot to add to the last paragraph of my post was to make friends with the community relations manager of all the chain bookstores in your area. Most CRMs are begging to have local authors promote their books (although I know of your bad experience with my company’s CRM there). If the store doesn’t have a CRM, make friends with the manager. It is in the interest of his financial security to sell as many books as possible.

Best
Rob

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By: Don https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10047 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:43:23 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10047 Eric,
Although pretty new to blogging, I wouldn’t underestimate the power of your readers getting the word out about your books on their blogs. I think it would definitely help to have links to your books in the blog entries/ reviews, but this brought a different question to mind. Does a book that sells on Amazon net you any money, or are those books already considered ‘in circulation’ for lack of a better phrase?
What about the various NPS bookstores? I saw (and purchased) my copy Plenty of Blame to Go Around at Gettysburg since I happened to be visiting. The tie-in for that particular book there is rather obvious, but what about other popular parks? Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville both have pretty good stores, and most of the ones that I’ve seen contain more subjects than that particular battle.
Civil War periodicals, of course, but what about groups other than the CWRT’s? The U.S. Cavalry Association (www.uscavalry.org), for example, might be interested in stocking a few copies of each in their “Sutler’s Store”. I’m not sure how much visitation they receive monthly/ annually, but most of those people would very likely be interested in your writing.
I’m not sure exactly how to contact them, but the military may provide you several options as well. First would be the military libraries at places like Fort Leavenworth and Fort Knox. Second would be the bookstores at both of those places, the one at Fort Knox unsurprisingly focuses on the history of cavalry and armor forces in the US and elsewhere. Field grade officers receive their professional education at Leavenworth, and all new young tank and cavalry officers are trained at Fort Knox. I would think they would be a very receptive audience. Third would be people in the Army at large, perhaps taking out an ad in the Army Times. The Army recently expanded the number of units designated as cavalry, which has led to more interest in cavalry history and traditions. While this is most prevalent (an unkind person might at times say manic) in the three remaining cavalry regiments, there is a great deal of interest in other cavalry units as well. Unfortunately the museums of the two remaining regiments from the Civil War are currently in transit due to unit moves, as I know they both had bookstores.

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By: Rob Wick https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10046 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:45:23 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10046 Eric,
As one who sells books for a living, it’s all in the promotion. Word of mouth will get you a few sales, but unless you have a publisher who is willing to get behind you and crank up the publicity machine, it’s going to be hard to get books out the door. With publishers not very willing to do that, it all comes down to the author. We have a book that was published by a local author and printed by iUniverse but has been our best local seller because of two things 1)It’s better than most of the crap cranked out by vanity publishers and 2)he’s had zillions of signings and spoke before every group that would have him.

Take as another example the difference between Mike Kauffman’s “American Brutus” and Swanson’s festering pile of turds (to borrow your words about another scribbler). Both books were published by major houses (Kauffman was Random House and Swanson was HarperCollins), but Harper put the bucks into publicity and promotions and took Swanson to the best seller list. While I doubt anyone would disagree that Kauffman’s work was much better, we don’t even have it on our shelves (which I plan to rectify soon) although we have 20 copies of “Manhunt”.

Another factor is a knowledgeable salesman. The people I’ve sold your books to weren’t looking for a history of Stuart’s ride (or a book on Little Phil or the battle of Monroe’s Crossroads). It was more along the lines of “my father, grandfather, brother, husband, etc., is a Civil War nut and his birthday is coming up. What’s new?” When I tell them about your book and how it’s well respected (and that I know the author!) I’ve never had one person tell me they weren’t interested. If you have someone who knows what is current in the field, that will make a big difference.

I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you don’t know already, but sadly even a superstore only has so much room on the shelves. We will always stock more of what the buyer thinks will sell instead of the book that cuts out all the crap and tells the story as it actually happened.

Best
Rob

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By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10045 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10045 The ‘glitz’ of the subject helps sales. Stuart, like Lee, Jackson, Mosby, Forrest et al. on the Confederate side, usually get a great deal of interest. Secondary figures like Turner Ashby, Jubal Early etc. get less of a response, but there is still interest among the initiated, especially if the individual was involved in some well known incident. Of course, blood & guts usually provokes interest – the likes of Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson, Champ Ferguson, the Lawrence raid, the James boys etc. have their own audience looking for something new on the subject. On the Union side, books on Chamberlain, Grant, Custer etc. can usually get good numbers especially if there is something ‘new’ in the telling.

That’s why I think your book on Dahlgren will do very well. He had two things going for him, a controversy at the time of his death and a controversy today. And, too, he was a young man who, unlike many, had an entrance into the highest levels of government because of his father. That makes him an ‘insider’ to a certain extent.

Tragedies play well too as do, of course, controversies. Dahlgren’s short life can be seen in both of those lights. He had everything to live for but died in the commission of what might be viewed either as a brave attempt to bring the war to an early (and thus less bloody) conclusion or, in the alternative, a vicious dishonorable act contrary to the accepted rules of warfare. Again, I know that the raid is not the focus of the book, but it certainly must be considered its culmination. In a way, it’s like Lincoln. Whenever anyone thinks of Lincoln, their first thoughts are usually about the assassination even though there was a lot more to Lincoln’s life than the last few hours in which he was not even an active participant!

Perhaps books that are less focused on a single person or event – such as your upcoming on Rush’s Lancers – would do even better if any advertisement included those particular points at which the subject intersected a ‘famous incident’. For instance, as you mentioned, the Lancers ALMOST caught up with J.E.B. Stuart in his ‘ride around McClellan’. In other words, they came within a few moments of being as, if not MORE famous than Stuart: “The command that caught an impudent General in his audacious raid!” and so forth.

Except for the very scholarly, most people buy books because something within those books piques an interest. People may BUY an encyclopedia, but they don’t usually read them in bed! Ergo, to foster sales, people have to see something in the book other than the mere ‘nuts and bolts’ of history – some story that garners passion and interest. At least this is why I buy a book.

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By: Drew W. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10041 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:46:07 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10041 Scott,
Cartography software–that’s one thing I would love to see some knowledgable person write about…i.e. what’s out there, what it costs, the pros and cons of each, etc.

Drew

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10039 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:38:35 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10039 Michael, you’re quite right – our Stuart book really spiked again right after your review! It created quite a stir in sales.

Valerie – that’s one of the things we did upon release of the Stuart book… mailings to CWRTs. We think that really helped. We needed a second edition one week after release (literally) when the first sold out, and the third hardback edition, only four months after release, is just being ordered.

We’re really humbled and tickled by the sales.

J.D.

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By: Scott https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419&cpage=1#comment-10038 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:37:08 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=419#comment-10038 Cartographers!!! $$$$$

I’m purchasing some software myself – its cheaper!

Scott

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