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Comments on: Wow, This Pisses Me Off https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Rantings of a Civil War Historian » Vindication is Sweet https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-10093 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:28:13 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-10093 […] J. D. and I got a letter from the guy in Westminster who accused us of plagiarizing. We spent a lot of time composing a response to him that pointed out all of the reasons why there’s no way that we could have stolen his work when we’d never seen it. […]

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By: Details of the silliness « Hoofbeats and Cold Steel https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9997 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:39:02 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9997 […] Details of the silliness Eric Wittenberg wrote a post a couple days ago on his blog regarding a letter I received (addressed to both of us) from another historian.  The letter concerned our jointly-written article about the June 29, 1863 cavalry fight at Westminster MD that appeared in the February 2007 issue of Civil War Times magazine.  This particular historian is well known in and around Westminster, and has been studying the event for quite some time.  He is also one of the founders of the “Maryland and the Civil War” Conference, at which Eric and I will be the keynote speakers next month (I previously posted about the event here). […]

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9990 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:40:48 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9990 Mannie,

LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

Eric

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9988 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:49:19 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9988 Mannie,

It was Eric, not me 🙂

Do you want to sue him? I’ll testify!

J.D.

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By: Mannie https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9987 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:17:47 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9987 Sir,

I am the original coiner of the phrase:

“get over it”

I first used this expression in 1983 (prior to the widespread use of irony in network television) in a conversation, the last, I think, with my ex-wife.

Please cease and desist in using this phrase without crediting me, the originator.

Mannie (“there’s plenty of crazy people to go around”)Gentile

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9963 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:41:00 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9963 I hope it ends it as well. Eric is indeed an attorney who works closely on copyright law, and I’m an insurance broker who spends a great deal of time on liability issues – malpractice, commercial, personal injury, and – libel and slander.

This fellow DEFINITELY picked the two wrong guys to throw a pile of plagiarism BS at. Our letter back to him is to the point and very strong. As Eric says, if he just would have taken 30 seconds to as the folks at the Historical Society whether either of us, or anyone else, ever looked at his manuscript, he would have avoided all this embarassment.

J.D.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9960 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:06:13 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9960 Guys,

I’m so glad that you all understand that you all can appreciate why this bothers us so much. All this clown had to do was to ask the folks at the Carroll County Historical Society, and they would have told him that we were not provided with a copy o fhis manuscript, and that would have been the end of it. Insteadd, he had handle things this way, and I take this as seriously as a heart attack.

And Scott, you’re absolutely correct. I guess we will see how this plays out, but I sincerely hope that when JD sends out the letter, that’s the last we ever hear of this.

Eric

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By: Scott Mingus https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9957 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:19:08 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9957 I wonder if he realizes that Eric is an attorney. It’s dangerous to make unfounded claims of stealing intellectual property; it’s STUPID to do it when one of the people being accused in a lawyer. He better have one on his side…

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9952 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:08:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9952 It’s obvious from the tone of the letter that this guy “claims” the Westminster fight for himself – he even goes so far in the letter to say that he knows anything and everything about the fight, there’s no source about it that he’s unaware of, and therefore what we did must have come from him…

Unbelievable. And as Eric says, we never heard of this guy’s manuscript prior to this. And he admits that the Carroll County Historical Society did not publish it, so that’s a hint there’s probably a good reason – maybe it was poorly written or unworthy for whatever reason.

I was steaming when I read the letter in Friday’s mail. The gall of this guy was astonishing. He implies that he’s let people know about our “theft” of his monopoly on Westminster – so in our response, Eric and I let him know that if we ever hear of any accusations by this guy from anyone else, we’ll take any and all action necessary to set the record straight. He better get the message and take it seriously. He’ll learn one way or the other – the easy way or the hard way – that flippant and unfounded charges can get you in very serious, and regrettable, hot water.

J.D.

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By: Ken Noe https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416&cpage=1#comment-9951 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:59:48 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=416#comment-9951 Hi All:

First of all, thanks for a plagiarism charge that doesn’t involve those pesky academics. After that brouhaha last fall we needed a break. 😉

In all seriousness now, you’re on solid ground. The “[noun] of [some other battle or theater]” formula is common, especially when you get out west. I bet many fights have a John Burns figure. If that’s all he’s got, the charge clearly is capricious and should be ignored by all. I won’t take it seriously. At worst, the Carroll County group should be able to establish that you never saw the manuscript there or that they never mailed it to you. That is one reason why archives keep records of who is accessing what.

Paul’s comments also seem particularly on target. He’s sure right about territorrialism, and I speak from unpleasant personal experience. I also encourage my students to give talks or publish long before they complete a dissertation precisely to establish “dibs,” or at least to inform people of what they’re working on.

This too shall pass.

Ken

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