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Comments on: An interesting article on the Confederate battle flag’s re-emergence https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Sam Hood https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-60286 Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:27:18 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-60286 I lament that the fringe wing-nuts have hijacked such a historical symbol as the CS battle flag, and I agree that it is now as Eric describes. The wing-nuts have tarnished a symbol that meant much to many good men. One of my favorite quotes is from Pvt Berry Benson’s “Civil War Book”, one of my favorite soldiers’ memoirs. Upon his return to duty after illness he wrote (page 24)–
“Oh how it thrilled the heart of a soldier, when he had been long away from the army, to catch sight again of his red battle flag, upheld on its white staff of pine, its tatters snapping in the wind! A red rag–there will be those who will say–a red rag tied to a stick, and that is all! And yet, that red rag, crossed with blue, with white stars sprinkled the cross within, tied to a slim, barked pine sapling with leather thongs cut from a soldier’s shoe, this rough red rag my soul loved with a lover’s love.”

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By: Dan Graff https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-59846 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 21:04:02 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-59846 The Battle Flag represents for the Southern States the cause of freedom from an overweening Federal Government. It was not treason to leave the Union especially for the Commonwealth of Virginia which expressly reserved that right (as did a number of other states) when they ratified the Constitution and joined the union. With regard to Slavery and it’s role in motivating men to wage war in 1861 the issue was settled rather comprehensively by James McPherson. His analysis of the private communications of nearly one thousand Confederate and Union soldiers strongly suggests that slavery played a minor to statistically insignificant role in the motivation of men to go to war in 1861. Neither side went to war with the issue of slavery as a primary or secondary motivator. It did become a factor for some Union solders late in the war. With regard to Barack Obama it is insidious to suggest that opposition to him must be based on racism. I am staunchly opposed to him but color has nothing to do with the formulation of my point of view, rather I see him as little more than a Chicago thug and a virtually out of the closet Communist and, as such, poison to the American Dream and American Exceptionalism .

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By: Sir https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57812 Sat, 05 Oct 2013 02:46:05 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57812 “Treason” is post hoc reasoning. The American Revolution was treason to the crown and the best arguments support the idea that states were sovereiegn and capable of secession under the constitution. If a state secedes, it’s subsebquent actions are NOT treaon.

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By: Jonas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57734 Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:51:15 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57734 Taking up arms against their country to protect slavery? You are talking about the Founding Fathers and the slave-owners treasonous rebellion of 1776, right?

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By: Robert Gode https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57705 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 05:05:26 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57705 The Confederate flag not only represents racism… it represents a group of states who committed treason in taking up arms against their country to protect slavery. These people are lucky they live in the US where such a symbol is still tolerated.

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By: Parker https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57670 Sat, 28 Sep 2013 04:10:26 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57670 Many people have burned the U.S. Flag in protest because they see it as a symbol of imperialism, oppression, hate, injustice, and militarism. They see the U.S. Flag and see the Trans-Atlntic slave-traders, and they see Manifest Destiny and the genocide of Native Americans. They see Japanese-Americans in concentration camps, and they see Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the firebombing of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Japan; they see the My Lai Massacre, Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Guantanamo. They also see hundreds and hundreds of KKK in parade under the Flag. They see in short, a great many cruel and heinous injustices perpetrated by Americans under the auspices of the American Flag. I guess it just all depends on how you look at it.

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By: Greg Eatroff https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57615 Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:09:06 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57615 Anyone who wants to know what the Confederate flags (battle flags, naval jacks, the three national flags, etc) stood for need only read the official documents the secession conventions issued to justify their efforts to dissolve the Union. I won’t try to sway you with my own opinion, just provide you with a link to what they said in 1860 and ’61 and let you judge for yourself:
http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html

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By: Chris Evans https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57611 Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:18:24 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57611 I would also like to recommend to everyone the wonderful book ‘The Confederate Battle Flag: America’s Most Embattled Emblem’ by John M. Coski.

That book has the most sensible discussion of the history and use of this flag. Which despite everything is a strangely very American story in the end. The book makes for excellent reading and understanding of this controversial subject.

Chris

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By: Chris Evans https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57609 Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:48:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57609 I actually think Father Ryan said it best in ‘ The Conquered Banner’ right after the war:

“Furl that Banner, for ’tis weary;
Round its staff ’tis drooping dreary;
Furl it, fold it, it is best;
For there’s not a man to wave it,
And there’s not a sword to save it,
And there’s not one left to lave it
In the blood which heroes gave it;
And its foes now scorn and brave it;
Furl it, hide it –let it rest!”

If more people had listened to that advice we wouldn’t have these insipid controversies every couple of years that go absolutely nowhere.

Chris

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By: Chris https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837&cpage=1#comment-57607 Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:34:20 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3837#comment-57607 Flying the Stars and Bars may be less provocative, but only because of the historical ignorance of the population. After all, it was the official flag of the Confederate government.

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