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Comments on: Dahlgren Status https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7795 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:26:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7795 If this was the first (and, obviously, ONLY) time that they served together, then I’m afraid it becomes more problematic – the choice of both men, that is. Had they been in service together before the raid, then it could be considered just another assignment. But in that they had not, to me it seems to indicate that both men were chosen for a particular ‘talent’ rather than it just being the luck of the military draw without any premeditation involved.

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By: MarylandReb https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7791 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:03:34 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7791 Looking forward to this one! Hope you have lots of 1st Maryland Cavalry CSA info! 😀

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7785 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:59:10 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7785 David,

I actually know quite a bit about the potential charges. It all had to do with allegations of Kilpatrick government property for his own use and benefit.

The issue has been researched extensively by others.

Eric

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7784 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:57:01 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7784 Val,

This was the one and only time that they served together.

Eric

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By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7781 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:18:56 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7781 Frankly, Scarlett, I don’t think that Kilpatrick would have required any kind of incentive to undertake a raid that, if successful, would have ‘made’ him. On the other hand, it is possible that Lincoln could see in Kilpatrick the TYPE of man who would undertake such an operation when men like Wistar (if he is to be believed speaking after the fact to a former Confederate) might refuse to do so. In this case, it might well have been a matter of Lincoln recognizing the use to which he could put Kilpatrick without having to be annoyed by all that ‘military honor’ business. Then, again, it could simply be a matter of Kilpatrick being an experienced cavalryman whose presence was more useful in the army than in prison.

A lot depends upon the charges against the man. If they were fairly innocuous (being drunk or being insubordinate), Lincoln might have determined that he was more valuable at large. If the charges were SERIOUS, then it may well be that Lincoln (and others in the government) saw in Kilpatrick a useful pawn who would have no qualms about a ‘covert’ operation of the type in which he eventually participated.

I would be interested in knowing if Kilpatrick and Dahlgren ever served together (I know nothing of such matters). If they had previously done so, then their going on the raid together is fairly understandable. If they had NEVER served together, that would have to mean that both men were chosen for a particular reason and placed in tandem. Again, at least it would seem that way to me.

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By: David https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7780 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:45:27 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7780 Eric-

I think you make too much of the possibility that Kilpatrick was beholden to A. Lincoln and thus took on the Richmond raid as a payback. Before going down that road, I would think you would want to see what other documentation there is in the Lincoln papers and at the National Archives. Certainly you would want to know the charges against Kilpatrick and whether the President’s intervention was extra-ordinary or routine.

David

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368&cpage=1#comment-7778 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:30:58 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=368#comment-7778 It’s been enjoyable editing the mss, as I has been for me with all your work. I saw that Kilpatrick letter in B&G, and I’m glad you noticed it. I figured it would be of use to you.

I should be able to finish the rest of the chapter for you this week.

J.D.

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