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Comments on: Be careful not to break your arm patting yourself on the back… https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Eric Wittenberg https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49583 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:46:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49583 Craig,

Of course I would. I’ve offered to allow Mr. McKinney to tell his side of the story–with no editing or censoring by me–multiple times, but he lacks the moral courage to do so. That offer remains open.

Eric

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By: Craig Swain https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49582 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:56:00 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49582 Ms. Havilland,
You said, “I say kudos to Mr. McKinney for his hard work bargaining this deal.”

Since you seem to know about this topic, what exactly did Mr. McKinney do in order to broker this deal?

In the interest of fairness, I’m sure Eric would be willing to allow a full accounting of that activity, should you provide.

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By: Todd Berkoff https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49580 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:28:37 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49580 Ms. Havilland –

You missed the very point of this entire discussion. The BSF Board–with Joe McKinney at the helm–not only stood by as Fleetwood Hill was flooded last year, but it told its membership in a press release that it was acceptable for landowners to violate federal and state law. Some of us had thought we were all on the “same side” until the Board actively worked against those who wished to protect the Hill from destruction. See here, http://www.brandystationfoundation.com/position.htm

And now the Board is taking credit for saving the Hill?!? Please.

I’m going to presume you are working via proxy for the McKinney’s here so I will talk slowly. You obviously do not know the backstory on the Lake Troilo controversy or what has transpired since that time. I suggest reading the news and earlier posts on this and other blogs.

You are out of your league and completely ignorant of the facts.

Sincerely,
Todd Berkoff

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49578 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:41:36 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49578 Had Useless Joe done anything at all “bargaining this deal”, which he did not do under any circumstances, I would gladly acknowledge the contribution. But that’s just it–he did NOTHING. Why? Because he’s not interested in preserving the battlefield.

As for apologizing, I have nothing to apologize for. I’m not the one who, in spite of having advance knowledge it was going to happen, stood there twiddling my thumbs while the most important part of the battlefield was dug up to build an illegal lake. I’ve simply reported things as they have occurred, telling the truth, ugly as it may be.

And for that, I will never apologize.

If Useless Joe and the Board of Appeasers want to demonstrate to us that they actually care about anything other than ghost hunting and the Graffiti House, then we will be happy to work with them. However, given the prior track record, I certainly am not holding my breath….

And as for your opinion, you’re entitled to it, just as I am entitled to ignore it. As long as I have a reason to point out malfeasance or, worse, a complete lack of action when action is called for, I will continue to point out how this man and his board of appeasers have rendered the BSF entirely irrelevant. Almost as irrelevant as I find your opinion, which is to say, “completely irrelevant.”

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By: Ms. Havilland https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49577 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:11:26 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49577 Ok, boys. I’m wondering why you can’t all act like gentlemen and stop the useless bickering? You are, after all, on the same side here. You may have different views or ideas about how to get there, but at the end of the day, you all stand for the same thing. I’m not the only person that is quite fed up with your negativity and inability to cooperate and work well with others. It seems to me that Mr. McKinney achieved the very thing that you wanted and he acted in a very diplomatic manner in reaching this goal. Mr. McKinney is a person who realizes that the citizens/land owners of Brandy Station and historic preservationists must work and live together for many years to come, so burning bridges and speaking ill of others is not the best way to get things done. I would have a lot more respect for you if you actually got off your high horse and attempted to work together with your fellow historians intead of berating them. Your energy would be much better spent doing something positive. Maybe that could be your New Year’s resolution for 2013? I say kudos to Mr. McKinney for his hard work bargaining this deal. YOU should be patting him on the back, apologizing for your poor behavior, and turning over a new leaf to work together to preserve historic grounds in the future.

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By: Todd Berkoff https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526&cpage=1#comment-49562 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:05:58 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3526#comment-49562 Eric, great post. Your points here are important for all to read and understand. We cannot let these appeasers and Sunshine Preservationists take credit for the hard-won efforts of the CWT management and Bud Hall for this victory.

The BSF can go back to arranging ghost tours of the Grafitti House and supporting ridiculous Civil War musicals.

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