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Comments on: Mythbusting https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Rudy888 https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-11468 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:59:06 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-11468 As a reader who thoroughly enjoys history, I am happy you are striving to present the facts and eliminate myths. I’m working on my little project here involving a general in the Spanish American War who was known to take a few drinks once in a while. Like many of his peers.

Suddenly, he’s a self-pitying alcoholic and his bad habit is being covered up by no one other than the President and top officials. So I naturally get the material from all three authors to determine what information they are using to write about this new revelation and they all quote each other but not one has any documentation. Pure conjecture based on what??

I’ve been able to pretty much knock the legs out from under the conclusion but there are three books out that completely revamp history with a new ‘myth’ that has no basis in fact.

So, keep knocking out the myths.

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By: Edwin P. Groot https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-97 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:57:53 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-97 Thanks for your comment.

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-96 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:40:36 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-96 As I said, we didn’t start out that way. The second half of the book deals with the controversy, but 99% of it is a discussion of what the participants and early commentator had to say about it. Again, by “myth busting” I’m only making the point that we saw an oversimplification of the matter and decided to address it in full like it’s never been done before.

Before folks make an assessment on something as “big” as the effects of Stuart’s ride, it help to have all the information possible. We have put it all in one book, for the very first time, for folks to then judge for themselves.

J. D. Petruzzi

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By: Edwin P. Groot https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-94 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:14:19 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-94 Still, though I admire the effort you all make, I have a problem with the approach you are making, but it might be the language difference or semantics. I mean to say, if you write a historal scientific work on a subject, the subject is treated scientifically and unbased facts and opinions could be treated but should suitabilly be treated with.

But I agree that is difficult to separate myth (‘a collective opinion on’, so to speak) from opinion, propaganda and mistakes. The use of logic should sort that out. I must say I have some problems with myth-debunking as a start for research, it reminds me too much of bad revisionism.

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-92 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:38:14 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-92 Eric and I together have, in fact, taken such a perceived responsibility to “bust myths” that we have worked an entire book around it. Early next year, Savas-Beatie is publishing our joint work on Jeb Stuart’s ride to Gettysburg, a book called “Plenty of Blame to Go Around.” The project, however, didn’t start out to be so involved in the discussion of the controversy surrounding Stuart’s involvement in events at Gettysburg. We originally wrote a book that was more of a modern telling of the events of Stuart’s ride the eight days before the battle, with just a cursory mention of the controversy.
As we got further along, we realized that there was such a wealth of previously untapped primary material on the controversy, we mutually decided to change the scope of the book. All of our narrative on the ride still exists, but it’s now only about half the book. The second half deals with a modern treatment of the controversy of Stuart’s role.
What was important to us, we learned, was that full disclosure of the primary sources of the controversy was needed – along with a discussion of scholarly references to it in the 20th century. We went far beyond the “Stuart was joyriding and was to blame” or “It wasn’t Stuart’s fault” – in effect, we saw these oversimplifications as “myths.” Contradictory myths to be sure, but oversimplifications unless a full discussion of the facts takes place.
In the end, we present everything possible to the reader and let them decide for themselves. Wherever the reader’s opinion falls then, after reading our book, it’s no longer so much a “myth.” 🙂

J.D. Petruzzi

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-84 Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:25:48 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-84 Edwin,

I agree with JD’s interpretation of my words. I view my role as making sure that myths–things that are not true, but which are accepted as true–are eradicated.

Eric

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-78 Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:58:51 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-78 Well, good point Edwin – in fact, on one popular Civil War chat board, several of us got into a discussion of what was actually a “myth” versus what was just and “error.” There is definitely a difference. The idea of Gettysburg being a meeting engagement may not truly be a “myth” (for those of us who believe that) but perhaps more in the category of an erroneous interpretation of evidence. I think in his blog, Eric was using the term “myth” more in a general sense, and was speaking of the way many of us historians feel – that there is an amount of myths, legends, errors – call them what you will – out there that a particular interpretation of the evidence won’t support.

J.D. Petruzzi

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By: Edwin G. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-76 Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:45:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-76 ve always viewed part of my role as a responsible historian as mythbusting, not the perpetuation of those myths." This sort of depends, doesn't it? I hardly consider the point of the discussion between mrs Petruzzi and Kelly a form of mythbusting. It is my view that a historian should research any subject without any bias, with respect for the people involved. I wouldn't regard the perpetuation of myths nor its busting a primary task.]]> Let’s go back to your statement: “I’ve always viewed part of my role as a responsible historian as mythbusting, not the perpetuation of those myths.”

This sort of depends, doesn’t it? I hardly consider the point of the discussion between mrs Petruzzi and Kelly a form of mythbusting. It is my view that a historian should research any subject without any bias, with respect for the people involved. I wouldn’t regard the perpetuation of myths nor its busting a primary task.

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By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-63 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:28:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-63 LOL, Dave, gotcha. Now that we’ve shown each other our scars… 😉

I guess it’s in the semantics to a degree. The definition could be applied to the armies as a whole, but not to Buford and Heth in my opinion. I guess I look at it this way – if the definition of “meeting engagement,” as I see it anyway, doesn’t apply to the two units involved in the initial clash, then it doesn’t apply to the resulting battle.

Others see it differently, and I respect that.

J.D. Petruzzi

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35&cpage=1#comment-62 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:21:13 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=35#comment-62 Thanks, Vince. I appreciate the kind words. I’m glad to hear that you enjoy my rants.

Eric

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