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Comments on: McKinney doesn’t speak when he should, and then when he does, stupidity pours out…. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: J David Petruzzi https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45855 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:23:28 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45855 I’ve been following this and similar discussions, and haven’t decided to jump in until now. Everyone here has sized up Mrs. McKinney very well (I think we all know types like her). But after reading her comments and her attitude, I’ve actually made an observation about a possible positive trait her husband must have. In spades.

Tolerance.

Because Mrs. McKinney, I have to tell you – to put up with the likes of you, woman, day in and day out, year in and year out, Joseph McKinney must be the most tolerant man on the planet. Either that or deep down he’s a wuss who has been dominated by your superior attitude.

As for me and most men I know, we’d have thrown you out of the house on your ass years ago. God bless Joe for being able to put up with your personality disorders.

Insulting current servicemembers, claiming to have first-hand knowledge of Civil War cavalry service from riding around on a domesticated horse for a few hours, and claiming spiritual kinship with none other than Jeb Stuart simply because of it.

There are good doctors and great medications out there, my lady. I’d advise you quickly make use of both.

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By: David Navarre https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45853 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:22:35 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45853 LTC McKinney wrote “certainly as a civilian you are not my superior”, which seems to leave out that whole annoying Constitution thing.

I’m a Virginian. My wife and I own the part of my house that the bank does not. I’ve ridden horses and even worn a uniform while doing so. I even enjoy Civil Wat era music, just like JEB Stuart. None of that makes me a cavalryman. It seems all too fitting that you think riding horses around for several hours for a few days is the same as being in the cavalry during wartime.

I find it reprehensible that someone who’s spent a career in the rear would speculate on where someone was serving in a current warzone. My understanding (despite having never served myself) is that there really are no rear areas in this war. I read a great article in the Stars and Stripes 2012 Heroes issue about a 2LT in logistics leading her platoon while under attack delivering supplies. Why it would matter where someone served in regards to this issue, I have no idea.

I’ve always heard military intelligence was an oxymoron. I think you’re doing a good job of proving that!

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By: Mike Peters https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45837 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:28:18 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45837 I know that Eric has spoken quite eloquently on the BSF debacle. Just minutes ago I read the group’s mission statement:

“The Brandy Station Foundation is a 501(c)-3 non-profit organization dedicated to preserving the natural and historic resources of the Brandy Station area of Culpeper County, Virginia.

“While our focus is toward the Civil War history of the Brandy Station vicinity, our efforts are not limited to that time period or by any geographic boundaries. We have been instrumental in the preservation of significant tracts of land related to the Battle of Brandy Station (June 9, 1863) and Kelly’s Ford (March 17, 1863). We operate the Graffiti House, which serves as our visitor center and museum.

“Our goal is to ensure the history and heritage of the area is not “paved over” in our rush to progress. ”

What part of this does the family McKinney not understand? Preservation is about saving the land for future generations. Walking the grounds allows scholars to write more accurately. A good friend of mine is always saying, “Terrain drives the battle.” You gotta walk the grounds to understand. Why haven’t the McKinneys figured out this basic preservation concept?

Preservation must be a burning passion. A Case in point. I corresponded many times with the late historian & pioneer preservationist Brian Pohanka. We both shared a love of Zouave units. And Brian was very giving. His responses, while extremely informative, were always short and to the point. He was a busy man. I knew that. One day I wrote to congratulate Brian on a preservation award. His resly was, considering Brian, War and Peace. He went on and on discussing preservation and why we need to stay focused. Bud Hall, Eric Wittenberg and many others are focused! Those not so inclined need to step aside and get out of the way. And please quit masquerading as preservationists. That galls me! I’d rather have you against us or totally apthetic.

Eric please forgive my rant. I do apologize. IF you need to remove it from your blog, I do understand.

Mike Peters
Color Bearer Civil War Trust, an organization that gets it.

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By: John Foskett https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45836 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:20:30 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45836 Well, it’s a shame that Rose: wouldn’t give Joe a few minutes at the family computer. If we’re going to have a serious dialogue about this, let’s hear from him directly instead of through a surrogate who apparently thinks that she’s about to ride around McClellan’s army.

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By: Mike Peters https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45835 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 05:15:03 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45835 Mrs. McKinney,

If I may borrow from Senator Bentsen, “I know Jeb Stuart and you’re NO Jeb Stuart.” Hell, you’re not even Dan Quayle,

And I’m offended that you question Todd’s service like your husband’s service in Nam trumps anyone else’s service. A retired officer acting like that? WOW!

Bottom line is hallowed ground was desecrated on your huisband’s watch. And it was land he was supposed to protect. That you can not refute. You can pound the desk all you want. Doesn’t change the facts.

Mike Peters

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By: Christina M. Stockton https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45834 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:10:58 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45834 Très pathétique, non? Dilettantes.

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By: Craig Swain https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45833 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:02:56 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45833 “I commented on one of your posts, Craig, and you immediately took it down.”

Actually, no I didn’t. It was never published. If I had published it, the “G-Rating” of my blog would have dropped down to a PG-13, or maybe even R. You should read my policy about comments.

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By: Eric Wittenberg https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45832 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:20:31 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45832 Mrs. McKinney,

I find myself completely flabbergasted by the epic scope of your egotism. Comparing yourself–a REMF if ever there was one–with the finest cavalry officer ever foaled on this continent? Surely, you jest.

Watch the 1988 movie “Working Girl” some time. Joan Cusack has a line that you should really heed, because it applies to you: “Sometimes I sing and dance around the house in my underwear. Doesn’t make me Madonna. Never will.” Just because you’re a wannabe doesn’t make you Jeb Stuart. Live it. Learn it.

And if you truly believe what you’ve written, then you need some very serious psychiatric help.

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By: Mike Green https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45831 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:55:56 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45831 Well, I’ve remained silent, but I cannot anymore. Really, Mrs. McKinney, questioning the resolve, commitment and work of the people who actually fought for years to save the Brandy Station battlefield? No one on the current Brandy Station Board of Directors, except for a member or two, have put forth the blood, sweat and tears to save this sacred battlefield that Bud Hall, Eric, Todd and myself spent. I find it shockingly crazy to even hear those words. I don’t remember seeing either Joe or you during the 1990’s fighting Lee Sammis or James Lazor from developing the battlefield. If it wasn’t for Bud Hall and other former Board members rising up against the destruction of Fleetwood Hill by a local landowner last year, sacred ground would have been destroyed forever. If I remember right, the current BSF board and your husband said nothing. Silence. In fact, when I talked to your husband he told me the construction wouldn’t affect Fleetwood Hill greatly and he supported the landowners destructive activities. BTW, guess you missed my OpEd in last July’s Civil War News railing against the policies of the BSF Board in appeasing the landowners attempt to destroy Fleetwood Hill. Didn’t see any response from Joe….And he now heads a preservation group. Outlandish!!! Thanks god for the Clean Water Act and preservationists such as Bud Hall.

You and your husband have no idea the level of sacrifice necessary to save the Brandy Station battlefield from destruction, so don’t lecture us madame. Enjoy riding your horses in France, and as a fellow Virginian, historian, and true preservationist – I have serious reservations about how much you really have in common with the great JEB Stuart. I’m sure he’s laughing at that comment from heaven.

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By: Chuck https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271&cpage=1#comment-45830 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:35:15 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=3271#comment-45830 Mrs. Jeb Stuart….opps….I mean Mrs. McKinney. Just a quick note…..many of us were on the BSF board and have been involved with preservation at Brandy Station long before your husband ever arrived on the scene. We know exactly what went on with the pond issue and is going on with his property rights BS so don’t take a holier than though attitude with us for we know what we speak. Might I suggest you and Joe find a nice farm over in France and stay there….we really won’t miss either of you at Brandy.

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