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Comments on: The History Channel’s Gettysburg https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Deb https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44609 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:25:47 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44609 I was also very disapointed in this.
I started a discussion on our Gettysburg Flickr group,
http://www.flickr.com/groups/gettysburg/discuss/72157626864821578/
It seems to have been a total thumbs down.

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By: Allen Mesch https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44608 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 14:17:06 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44608 You hit the nail right on the head. Please see my comments on http://salient-points.blogspot.com/2011/06/history-channels-civil-war-offerrings.html.

What’s your take on “Lee and Grant?”

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By: Gayle https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44606 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:15:53 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44606 BillF and Everyone,

Thank you so much for your advice on programs available through Netflix that will help give him a more accurate education on Gettysburg. I truly appreciate it.

Bill, thank you so much for your recommendations on what to do when we are able to take him to Gettysburg. We’re hoping to take a family trip there next year, most likely, during either the spring or summer. We’ve talked with him about it and have encouraged him to begin writing down questions he has so we can research information and so he has a list of questions prepared ahead of time to ask once we are able to go.

Thank you all so much, all of your insight and input, and knowledge is truly appreciated.

Gayle

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By: BillF https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44605 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:25:20 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44605 Gayle,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I appreciate your response. That is what I had hoped the program would do. Please do take your son to Gettysburg: it is an awesome experience the first time you see it. Make sure you take some of the ranger walks, and, if you can afford it, hire a Licensed Battlefield Guide for several hours. The better ones are well worth the money. Thank you for encouraging your son’s interest. They are our hope for the future.

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By: Bill Watson https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44604 Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:41:05 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44604 Glory had other mistakes, including important ones like putting the words of other people in the mouth of Robert Gould Shaw so that he would sound more like what we want an abolitionist to sound like. It is, nevertheless, a movie that captures the soul of history even as it takes liberty with the facts. This “Gettysburg of Idiots, by Idiots and for Idiots” is in another much less desirable category: bunkum, squat and bullroar.

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By: Bryan C https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44603 Sun, 05 Jun 2011 02:52:11 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44603 I liked the program. I had no problem that it did not mention some of the big names (Buford or Heth, for example) because Gettysburg has been done to death and in many other Gettysburg prgrams, they are mentioned. Seeing something new was actually refreshing.

Since “Glory” was brought up, yes it is a very good, dramatic and powerful movie. But it has a lot more inaccuracies than the wrong designation color for infantry uniforms. The timeline of events was incorrect. The movie gives the impression that most of the men had been slaves until they ran away; in fact, most of them, like Thomas Searles (a fictional character), were raised in the north, some even from Canada.

An accurate Civil War program with an honest look at what caused the war is hard to find. Let’s hope for more of this in the future.

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By: Kurt L. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44601 Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:24:49 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44601 Todd, we can both agree on that last point. Glory is my favorite Civil War film.

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By: Todd Berkoff https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44599 Sat, 04 Jun 2011 02:56:51 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44599 Kurt –

Not mentioning certain officers who played a prominent role in the battle is equivalent to doing a documentary on Chancellorsville and not mentioning Stonewall Jackson or Joseph Hooker.

Not only were there serious historical omissions (as MANY people have already pointed out) but the bottom line is that with all that money, the program did not accurate depict combat in the Civil War. You mentioned impressive CGI — how about CGIing more troops into the shots to accurately depict what a full regiment, brigade, or division looked like in line of battle–that would have been impressive–instead of the 30 or so soldiers that the program depicted in the average battle scene. It looked pathetic.

I can go on, like the lack of any NEW analysis on the battle…god forbid the writers and researchers actually speak with authors who are researching new interpretations on Ambrose Wright’s attack on July 2 or the role of the 137th New York in defending Culp’s Hill.

And I much prefer the final battle scene in Glory compared to this garbage…

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By: Chris Evans https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44598 Sat, 04 Jun 2011 02:34:31 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44598 Yes, ‘Civil War Combat’ had many memorable episodes. Their episodes on The Wheatfield at Gettysburg, Little Round Top, and Culp’s Hill were better and more accurate than the new ‘Gettysburg’ documentary. Also, the episode on Cold Harbor was very good on showing the horrific nature of that battle. It was too bad they didn’t make any more than they did (I think around 12) and I wish they would have had a bigger budget to play with.

I think a very interesting visual film of the Civil War not mentioned is John Huston’s 1951 ‘Red Badge of Courage’ with Audie Murphy. It was too bad that it was butchered in post production and filmed in California instead of Virginia but it has some shots that look like real Civil War photographs and some combat scenes that are still pretty impressive despite their age.

Chris

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By: Kurt L. https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654&cpage=2#comment-44597 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:24:03 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=2654#comment-44597 David Petruzzi — I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Maybe folks aside from us appreciate the production values of the film, but if they do, they’re not saying so here. I’m just looking for slightly more nuanced critiques than “the historical accuracy was poor; therefore, it sucked”. Thank you for providing one.

Todd Berkoff — I think “the program had no real strengths” is a bit unfair. Clearly historical accuracy was a weakness, but the photography, visual flair, and excitement in the battle sequences seemed above average for Civil War films. I agree that Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers have impressive combat sequences, but they’re not Civil War films. Aside from maybe Cold Mountain and Glory, Civil War films tend to be pretty visually unexciting and the battle sequences, surprisingly tame (compare the 1993 Gettysburg to Saving Private Ryan, if you dare). This film was a nice change of pace in that department.

I also think your argument that “they didn’t mention X; therefore, it sucked” misses the point of the film. It’s not meant to be an all-encompassing epic; that’s already been done to death. Instead, it’s a series of anecdotes about a handful of individuals involved in the battle. That necessarily leaves out a lot of important names, places, and events.

I appreciate your recommendation of Civil War Combat and will check it out. And I promise that I don’t work for any production company. Just a grad student in Atlanta with a love of Gettysburg and Civil War films.

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