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Comments on: St. Joshua of Joshua Top https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: David Corbett https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1750 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:35:34 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1750 Dear Sir ,
When I was a callow lad all we learned of was General Warren as “the Saviour of the Roundtops ” etc. . To me it is refreshing to see this “new” American hero and one of such sterling qualities . Recent times seem to have produced a paucity of such figures and Americans need “heroes”. Chamberlain can hardly be surpassed in this category.
Sincerely ,
David Corbett

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By: Charles Bowery https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1749 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:38:02 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1749 Eric,
I learned my Gettysburg staff ride – leading techniques from Carol Reardon, who likes to read a portion of Chamberlain’s dedication speech for the 20th Maine monument while standing on the spur. After doing it dozens of times it still brings a tear to my eye. In spite of the commercialization and over-emphasis, still a great story!

I also agree that Culp’s Hill is the most fascinating and under-studied part of the main battle area. I always had my USMA cadet groups stand near Spangler’s Spring and talk about the bravery of the Massachusetts and Indiana regiments that attacked across that open field, and about the importance of following orders, even when a leader thinks those orders are wrong. Then a walk up into the saddle between Lower and Upper Culp’s to see the opposing Maryland U.S. and Maryland C.S. markers.
Cheers!

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By: Randy Sauls https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1748 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:41:32 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1748 Eric:

I have always considered Shaara’s book and Turner’s movie to be sort of a “Valentine” to Chamberlain, and for that matter, to Longstreet, and I agree that the book and movie have certainly focused undue attention on St. Joshua. A walk past the tourist shops on Steinweher Avenue, each brimming with “Don’t Call Me Lawrence” T-Shirts, is evidence. On the other hand, anything that gets people (especially kids) interested in any historic site is OK by me. As for Greene and Culp’s Hill, you’re absolutely right. The silver lining, if there is one, is that the summit of Culp’s Hill is one place on the field where you can escape the crowds, explore a little, and be alone with your thoughts. My GGG-Father (3rd NC) was one of the men who tried to take Culp’s Hill from Greene and I’ve always enjoyed visiting that part of the field.

Randy

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By: John https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1747 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:00:42 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1747 I have been interested in Chamberlain’s (and the 20th Maine’s) exploits at Gettysburg ever since reading Pullen’s book on the regiment (quite probably the best regimental history I have read) when I was in jr. high. I remember a trip to Gettysburg after my sophomore year in college with a friend and seeking out the regimental monument down an little used path. My friend was amazed that I knew the location of a relatively unmarked site, compared to the rest of LRT at that time.

It is amazing what can be done with a novel and movie that a good piece of historical research couldn’t do.

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By: Art Bergeron https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1746 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:15:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1746 Eric, a point well made. Back some years ago, I participated in a Civil War discussion board hosted by Prodigy, and I got into some minor scuffles with a few members who belong to the St. Joshua crowd. Admittedly, I purposely tried at times to stir the pot. It is too bad that Shaara focused on Chamberlain rather than a more (equally?) deserving person and helped create this cult.

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By: John Maass https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1745 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:33:46 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1745 This is an interesting perspective. I have not been to Gettysburg for a # of years so I was not aware of the “love fest” at LRT surrounding Chamberlain. The influence of movies is quite powerful it seems, and so is that of novels. If Sharaa had focused on someone else in his novel, would another general or colonel be the “hero” that we all seem to know about today? What if W.S. Hancock was the heroic focus of the novel–would the tourists be at the Copse of Trees? This says a lot about how folks learn about history.

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By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1744 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:00:39 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1744 Kevin,

There’s no doubt, and anything that gets people there can’t be all bad. I just hope that they are able to see that there’s more to this story than just the story of St. Josh.

Eric

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By: Kevin https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203&cpage=1#comment-1743 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:47:01 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=203#comment-1743 Hi Eric, — I get what you are saying and I have to admit to being worn out in re: to the Chamberlain love fest. That said, that people are still travelling at all to Gettysburg is probably something to still give thanks for. I’ve been following the latest results in terms of what our high school and college graduates know about American history. And it ain’t good!

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