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Comments on: 146 Years Ago Today https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Stevan Meserve https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-36689 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:09:37 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584#comment-36689 s infantry was not involved in the fighting at Upperville, neither along the turnpike nor on Trappe Road. The infantry, having marched 14 miles and skirmished with Stuart’s cavalry several times before reaching Goose Creek, dropped out after helping to capture the bridge there. “Grumble” Jones (accompanied by Fitz Lee’s brigade under the command of Col. Chambliss) was not assaulted by Buford and David Gregg, but by Buford alone. Gregg was, at that same time, heavily engaged with Wade Hampton’s brigade and Beverly Robertson’s Carolinians in the town of Upperville. Nearly two miles separated the two battles. The only “flying” from the field was done by the Carolinians when they were first attacked in the Ivy Hill Cemetery east of town. Hampton’s men not only blunted Gregg’s assault, but actually held Judson Kilpatrick prisoner briefly before withdrawing at a walk around, rather than through, the town. Even the Carolinians rallied west of town and stopped the Union advance well east of the Blue Ridge. The gap Pleasonton so desperately wanted to reach, by the way, was Ashby’s Gap. Chester Gap is near Front Royal. Heros von Borcke was wounded in the fighting in Middleburg the day before the Battle of Upperville. Technically, you could call all three of the Loudoun Valley battles tactical defeats for Stuart (which the Richmond newspapers did with a vengeance) since the Union cavalry was left in control of the entire valley when Pleasonton decided, for some unknown reason, to withdraw all the way to Aldie on June 22 instead of pressing ahead to the Blue Ridge gaps. Neither Stuart nor his men liked that kind of fighting, but their mission, at which they succeeded admirably, was to trade ground for time. John Buford would perform the same mission when facing Heth’s troops at Gettysburg.]]> If I may play nitpicker, Vincent’s infantry was not involved in the fighting at Upperville, neither along the turnpike nor on Trappe Road. The infantry, having marched 14 miles and skirmished with Stuart’s cavalry several times before reaching Goose Creek, dropped out after helping to capture the bridge there.

“Grumble” Jones (accompanied by Fitz Lee’s brigade under the command of Col. Chambliss) was not assaulted by Buford and David Gregg, but by Buford alone. Gregg was, at that same time, heavily engaged with Wade Hampton’s brigade and Beverly Robertson’s Carolinians in the town of Upperville. Nearly two miles separated the two battles.

The only “flying” from the field was done by the Carolinians when they were first attacked in the Ivy Hill Cemetery east of town. Hampton’s men not only blunted Gregg’s assault, but actually held Judson Kilpatrick prisoner briefly before withdrawing at a walk around, rather than through, the town. Even the Carolinians rallied west of town and stopped the Union advance well east of the Blue Ridge. The gap Pleasonton so desperately wanted to reach, by the way, was Ashby’s Gap. Chester Gap is near Front Royal.

Heros von Borcke was wounded in the fighting in Middleburg the day before the Battle of Upperville.

Technically, you could call all three of the Loudoun Valley battles tactical defeats for Stuart (which the Richmond newspapers did with a vengeance) since the Union cavalry was left in control of the entire valley when Pleasonton decided, for some unknown reason, to withdraw all the way to Aldie on June 22 instead of pressing ahead to the Blue Ridge gaps. Neither Stuart nor his men liked that kind of fighting, but their mission, at which they succeeded admirably, was to trade ground for time. John Buford would perform the same mission when facing Heth’s troops at Gettysburg.

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By: Craig https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-36635 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:02:19 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584#comment-36635 I intended to post a “trip report” (and I use the term loosely here as it would actually be the sum of two dozen “trips” now) of the Loudoun Valley fights.

Goose Creek Bridge in particular interests me as a small example of the three combat arms working within the same battlespace. Beautiful bridge, and a lot of interesting characters to discuss.

But I’ve gotten distracted lately with the darned pontoon bridges down the road from my house at Edwards Ferry.

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By: Jeff Mancini https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-36631 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:42:54 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584#comment-36631 Eric: Actually I think I have have the sequence of those two units demises swapped and thus the 1st Mass. got slammed four days earlier at Aldie and then Duffie’s demise with the 1st Rhode Island at Middleburg occurred on the 19th. Both situations,however,illustrated that despite its new found boldness that the Union Cavalry was still going to get its nose bloodied on numerous occasions and the perceived demise of the Rebel’s on horseback beginning with the Kelly’s Ford Raid months earlier was being exagerated as well.

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By: Jeff Mancini https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-36630 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:41:09 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1584#comment-36630 Eric: Isn’t it safe to conclude that the Federal effort at Upperville was a dramatic improvement of the previous two battles. Duffie ‘s 1st Rhode Island was severly bludgeoned four days earlier at Middleburg and just two days later Kilpatrick led the 1st Massachusettes into a trap at Aldie and that unit was grinded up terribly. So Upperville was a needed rally. I conclude that the Federal Cavalry with its growing strength in both numbers and equipment was not going to let up on Stuart’s troopers and Upperville started that winning trend so slightly tasted at Brandy Station. The march northward meant an extended line and that put extra pressure on Rebel pickets as they had to relentlesly screen the ANV and still hope to accomplish some foraging of their own.

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