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Comments on: Home Again (At Last!) https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Rantings of a Civil War Historian » Why Joseph McKinney must resign https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-44465 Tue, 17 May 2011 13:05:31 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-44465 […] view of historic preservation. See his perplexing op-ed in the Washington Post from 2009, and his posting on this blog last year defending the McMansion on Fleetwood Hill. It is unclear to me how a man who […]

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By: VERY Disturbing news from Brandy Station | Rantings of a Civil War Historian https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-44443 Wed, 11 May 2011 19:35:19 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-44443 […] have previously told you of the construction of a large McMansion atop the crest of Fleetwood Hill, on the very spot where thousands of Union and Confederate […]

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By: Great concerns about the direction of the Brandy Station Foundation | Rantings of a Civil War Historian https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-44365 Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:07:10 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-44365 […] concerns about Mr. McKinney’s dedication to battlefield preservation. Here on this very blog, he defended the construction of a huge, ugly McMansion on Fleetwood Hill by a local landowner. Then, he wrote a […]

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By: Jim https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36859 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:14:13 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36859 I first visited the Graffiti House during the 145th Anniversary of the Battle of Brandy Station, and found a few “cuzzins” that were on the field that day, and, likely, in the building at one time or another.

On a subsequent visit I snapped a photo and added the Graffiti House as a subject of replicas that I produce. I believe they have one on display there. I make a donation to the Battlefield Foundation from every Graffiti House replica that is sold ( although we’ve only sold a few so far). … just my way of contributing to save our hallowed ground.

(I’ve done the Pritchard House in Kernstown as well). I need to post the Graffiti House replica online on our website … http://www.SundanceReplicas.com.

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By: Christ Liebegott https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36624 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:18:36 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36624 Eric,
Did you ever make it to Edgworth? I was going to try to get to your presentation, but when I saw some old guy building an ark, I thought better of it.

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By: Jeff Mancini https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36619 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:07:10 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36619 I just wanted to share with all of you one other point about battlefield preservation. Me being out here in Las Vegas might not be the most appropriate type of angle but let me explain. I have lived, grown up and prospered in Las Vegas since 1968. Basically my father got into the gaming business when I was at a young age. I have lived to see my city grow into this incredible modern metropolis in the middle of the Mojave desert. In 1968 a number of Las Vegas Hotel/Casino’s like today lined the Las Vegas Strip: Properties such as the Sahara, the Riviera, the Flamingo and the Tropicana still exist in some form like they did in 1968. However most of the other properties that stood here much like in the well known movies Ocean’s 11 and Diamonds are Forever no longer exist. Legendary resorts like the Thunderbird, the Stardust, the Desert Inn, the Landmark, the Sands, the Dunes, the Aladdin,the Castaways, the Silver Slipper, the Hacienda and others are no longer in existence. Simply put the progressive thinking of the hotel casino owners in their zeal to compete and outdo each other building state of the art luxurious palaces packed with every amenity imaginable simply hire crews to empty and gut the perceived obsolete properties, fill them with dynamite, stage elaborate implosions of their shells, blade off the remainder and procede to build a brand new state of the art for its time new colossal hotel casinos.I’ve seen this scenario occur time after time after time. Now imagine if a Civil War battlefield were in the midst of the Las Vegas Strip and one can imagine how if and when change can occur and at what consequence. We bulldoze our historical landmarks. Back in Civil War country its not that simple. Just a thought. Did not want to hijack this thread and if I did I apologize.

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By: Jeff Mancini https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36618 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:42:02 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36618 Mr. McKinney: Thank you for the quick response. It was articulated like the fine Virginia gentleman that I suspect you are. The BSF is well regarded for its great stewardship that protects this land. Civil War historians constantly reach out to one another and implore others to understand the need to preserve and maintain the symbols of a struggle that pitted us against each other. That our passions and beliefs were genuine and worth fighting for and that in the end worth reconciling over for a better future. Hope to see you soon and thanks again to you and the others in Culpeper for your allowing others to have a glimpse at this landmark.

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By: Joseph McKinney https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36617 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:21:38 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36617 Dear Mr. Mancini,

Sorry that you won’t be able to make it to the tour next weekend, but since you live in Nevada, I completely understand.

If you can get back this way in the future, please contact me. I’m in the phone book, or can be reached through the contacts on the BSF website.

Since I’m retired, I’m pretty flexible, and would be happy to take a few hours to show you the Brandy Station battlefield. We’re fortunate that between the BSF and the CWPT much of the battlefield land is protected. We are also fortunate that because of the support of local landowners, we have access to privately owned portions of the battlefield. Unlike many battlefields, Brandy Station looks today much like it did in 1863.

I look forward to hearing from you in the — hopefully — not too distant future.

Sincerely,

Joseph McKinney

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By: Jeff Mancini https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36616 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:55:21 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36616 Mr. McKinney: Thank you for your enlightened response to my post and please extend my personal good wishes and respects to your wife as well. I did not intend to personalize my post and I regret if it was interpreted that way. The salient points of both of your posts are duly noted and I stand corrected if my angle is misconstrued or taken out of context. However I rationalize that protecting Civil War battlegrounds can often be interpreted as impediments to economic development and expansion and that their existence impedes progress. For most people in Culpeper County I suspect that the Brandy Station battlefield is considered a viable and acceptable attraction to many and that in its present form it probably is extremely representative of the battlefield minus the obstructed view at Fleetwood Hill. I live in Las Vegas Nevada but intend to visit Brandy Station one day.Too bad the view is obstructed. I mean if someone were to have built a McMansion at Antietam at say Burnside’s Bridge or at Gettysburg on Cemetary Ridge there would be a much larger backlash than the McMansion of Fleetwood Hill. As a BSF volunteer you completely understand the battlefield like Trevilian Station and Yellow Tavern as the three main monuments of Eastern Theatre cavalry operations in Virginia that are at least preserved enough to interpret and understand the essence of that branches clashes in the Civil War. Rather than clash with you and sermonize the issue I thank you for your support of the BSF and your role in articulating both sides of the desire to maintain some balance on this issue. Cool clear heads should prevail and I suspect that Eric’s passion on the topic was the true focus of the discussion. He has and will push the envelope on this and other topics. Trust me he needs no introduction or in hockey parlance (an interest we both share) me being the third man in. He is quite capable of fighting his battles. I simply backed him on the issue that Fleetwood Hill is somewhat marginalized as a site by the building of a McMansion.Extend the appreciation to the owner over his allowing preservationists and historians to approach the area to learn about Brandy Station. Responding with utmost respect. JM

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By: Joseph McKinney https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578&cpage=1#comment-36615 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:15:45 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1578#comment-36615 I was not going to respond to Mr. Mancini, but my wife — also a retired army lieutenant colonel — urged me to do so. First some facts. There has been a house on the site of the so called “spite house” for all but 7 or 8 of the last 150 years. The Millers built in 1859. That house burned in the 1880s and the then-owners — the Millers were long gone — rebuilt. The 2nd house stood until 1999 or 2000 when — derelict, termite ridden, and overgrown — the present landowner tore it down. By the way, currently there are four houses on the land that was fought-over by the troopers in Percy Wyndham’s and Grumble Jones’ brigades on June 9, 1863.

I reject the implication that we in Culpeper were somehow remiss when we “let [the landowner] build anyway.” The house is in compliance with long-standing zoning and land use restrictions and meets building codes. I doubt that many county officials anywhere in this country would find much fault with a property owner wanting to build a personal residence on a parcel he has owned for 20 or 30 years. This is hardly equivalent to Wal-Mart in the Wilderness or Disney’s America in Haymarket.

I don’t take issue with anyone’s opinion that Fleetwood ought to be preserved. Nor do I take issue with those who feel that the view of Fleetwood was more esthetically pleasing in the period between when the 1880s house came down and the present house went up. In my previous post, I simply took exception to the assertion that the house was built to spite preservationists, and to the characterization of the landowner as a “jerk.” I continue to stand by those comments.

Mr. Mancini, If you are interested in learning about Fleetwood Hill, be at the Graffiti House in Brandy Station at 10:00 am next Saturday, June 27. I’ll be leading a 2-hour tour of Fleetwood as a volunteer for the Brandy Station Foundation. The BSF fee is $10. Hope to see you there!

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