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Comments on: The Books of Winston Groom https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: The General https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-43854 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:12:42 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-43854 Mr. Potts,

I regret that you feel this way. However, I am a serious historian, and so, too, are many of my readers. The vast majority of them are serious students of the Civil War, and that’s the audience that I write to and for. I’m not about to sugar coat a serious review of a work that is sorely lacking in scholarly merit simply on the off-chance that someone’s newly-ignited passion for history might be killed by it. That would be an egregious breach of my responsibility as a historian and it would also not be doing my regular readers a service.

I said quite clearly that the book is probably okay for someone like you, who is only a casual student of history. If you like his work, then by all means, please read it and enjoy it.

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By: Philip Potts https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-43848 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:34:36 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-43848 It’s interesting to think about, I suppose, this particular thought. I grew up in school hating history for it’s boring, methodical, anal retentive attention to detail the text books always seemed to give it.

In my 30’s I discovered Mr. Groom’s books and realized history is interesting when the focus is shifted on the thoughts of the people that lived it instead of the memories of the people that are forced to relive it.

With that being said, Winston Groom, for the first time in my life, made me interested in history, and this review of yours killed it.

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By: Chris Evans https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36561 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:11:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36561 Having read Groom’s two books on the Civil War I find them decent. His book on the Tennessee Campaign of 1864 really sparked my interest in reading more on that very tragic campaign. His Vicksburg book is also good but not great and he really should have endnotes to know where he is getting his sources from. And he makes some strange errors that should have been caught by an editor. The Port Hudson one was mentioned above but in writing about Jefferson Davis’ last home he locates it in Pass Christian, MS instead of Biloxi, MS which is some miles apart from each other. These type of errors might be small but are annoying and how can you trust other subjects that are written about. Still one of my favorite books on the Vicksburg Campaign that has not been mentioned is ‘Champion Hill’ by Timothy Smith. It really is all a battle history should be with great maps and photos.
Chris

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By: Chris Van Blargan https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36560 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:16:31 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36560 Eric,

Having read Groom’s “Shrouds of Glory,” I suspect the book is a synthesis of secondary sources retold in Groom’s words — hence no footnotes. Like you, this book is not on my reading list. But then again, I don’t think readers who already have Ballard, Winschel and Bearss on their shelves are Groom’s target audience. Rather, he is targeting the reader who loved Gump, saw the PBS Civil War series, has stopped at a Civil War battle or two out of curiosity, and/or is familiar with Groom’s popular history series. So long as the book is not an outright plagiarism (which I doubt it is), and a reasonably accurate account of the campaign (of which I am not so sure), I have no problem with it. Indeed, if the book reaches an audience that would not otherwise have any interest in learning about the campaign, and if even a fraction of those readers go on to join and contribute to organizations like the CWPT, I think we should be supporting it and similar works (although not necessarily buying them).

Chris

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By: Ian https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36558 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:38:14 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36558 May I suggest if you can find a copy, Ninety-Eight Days – A geographer’s View of the Vickburg Campaign by Warren E. Grabau. You want maps, this baby has almost 70 of them!! This is a concise and smoothly written book.

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By: dan https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36557 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:45:59 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36557 I think this brings us back full circle to the post several weeks ago about footnotes in CW magazines. If Groom’s efforts aren’t “history” on account of the fact that nothing is sourced, and no footnotes are included, then CWT isn’t history either by the same definition. This was my contention from the get go, and I concur with Eric on this post entirely. After all, when the world gives you Jihad, just give them appeasement or was that when the world gives you lemons make lemonade, or life is a bag of melted chocolates.

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By: Duke Pearson https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36556 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:36:46 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36556 I bought his first book, found 3 historical errors in the first 20 or so pages, and put it on the shelf. I can live without footnotes, but get the facts straight, Winston!

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By: Jimmy Price https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36555 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:27:04 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36555 Amen and Amen!

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By: Jim Schmidt https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36554 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:18:52 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36554 Eric – I tend to agree. and won’t be buying Groom’s “Vicksburg” either. I think Groom’s first forways into this type of historical writing were his “Storm in Flanders” (EEI) and “1942” (WWII). Personally, I think we can expect an Indian Wars or American Revolution title from him in the coming years.

Jim

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By: Art Bergeron https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561&cpage=1#comment-36553 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:03:20 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1561#comment-36553 I have heard that Mr. Groom misplaces some sites, such as placing Port Hudson, Louisiana, in Mississippi.

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