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Comments on: I Believe This Falls Into the Definition of Galactically Stupid https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044 Bringing obscurity into focus Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.22 By: Jared Frederick https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34661 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:19:17 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34661 Here is a little follow up:

Civil War re-enactor’s shooting shakes die-hards

Associated Press – October 25, 2008 12:25 PM ET

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) – The tight-knit community of Civil War re-enactors was shaken by last month’s shooting of 1 of its participants in southeastern Virginia.

Retired New York City police officer Thomas Lord was portraying a Union soldier for a documentary being filmed in a Suffolk park when he was shot in the shoulder.

Ed Hooper is editor of Camp Chase Gazette, a monthly magazine for re-enactors. He says re-enactors were “freaked out” because incidents like this are rare, and when they happen they hit the hobby hard.

Investigators believe they know who fired the shot. Members of Lord’s union say the suspected shooter was among several Confederate re-enactors who showed up at the filming. No charges have been filed.

Hooper says the shooting will amplify re-enactors’ emphasis on safety.

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By: Craig https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34655 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:16:34 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34655 I left that hobby many years ago based on two disgusting issues. First and foremost was the politics. Not “politics” as in that stuff on the news now days, but the tendency for any group of human beings to devolve into a catty group of cliques. Second was the all too often and flagrant violations of safety. So one day I decided that if I could not change the hobby for the better, I’d better get out.

I will say that generally those concerned with authenticity and accuracy tend to be the best in regard to smothering the cliques and ensuring safety. The last three events I attended were with a “campaigner” outfit. Good guys but they were being pushed out by the rabble.

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By: Phil Muskett https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34654 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:00:44 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34654 Years ago when I reenacted, we had some one leave a tompion in their rifle and fire it down range. The brass tip entered our battalions drum, carried by a nine year old boy. Of course it was a volley fire from the battalion opposing us. The reenactment was stopped but no one found the culprit. I think it was an honest mistake by someone not paying attention. Fortunately no one was hurt.
Safety wasn’t the reason I got out of it either. It was politics. But that is a whole other story.

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By: Robert Welch https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34651 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:00:34 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34651 I reenacted for about fifteen years in the Midwest, and in my experience, there are a number of people in the hobby that are blatant safety violators. The worst are members of the North-South Skirmish Association that occasionally attend reenactments for fun. We had one gentleman fall in with our company at an event after safety inspection, somehow slipping past the First Sergeant and the Captain. Once on the field, someone noticed that he was not using paper cartridges, and a quick inspection of his cartridge box revealed plastic speedloaders used in modern skirmish shooting, complete with minnie balls. He was immediately pulled from the ranks and watched like a hawk until he could be removed from the event. I’ve seen people drinking prior to taking the field, and perhaps the worst that I’ve ever encountered are in the artillery. One unit, when they ran out of friction primers, used a revolver to fire their mountain howitzer. Another group with a quarter-scale artillery tube, were manually compressing larger aluminum foil rounds and double loading their over-rated shotgun barrel, creating the very real potential for an exploding “shell” coming out of their piece. While safety is not the reason that I got out of the hobby, I surely do not miss the idiots.

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By: Dave Powell https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34649 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:29:43 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34649 There are several ways in which a live projectile can work it’s way into a re-enactment. The most obvious is if the re-enactor also live fires his weapon, either via the NSSA or on his own. Minies can leave a ring behind the barrel, for example, which can become a live projectile when fired in a re-enactment.

I reenacted for 10 years. 99.9 percent of the things I saw were safety oriented. that .1 percent can be deadly, however, and I became aware of things I was not comfortable with.

I no longer reenact, not so much for safety issues as for the simple reason that I was going to events next to battlefields but never actually spending time on the fields. A case of confused priorities, as it were.

I firmly believe that weapons used for live shooting of any kind should never also be taken to a reenactment. I also believe that the re-enactment community has been lucky, overall, that more injuries have not occurred – it’s too easy to forget you are “playing’ with real weapons.

That said, I enjoyed my time at events, including some big ones – Gettysburg 83, for example. Sorry to hear about this mistake, but I really do believe it was a mistake.

Dave Powell

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By: Valerie Protopapas https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34648 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:35:49 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34648 Obviously, you folks are forgetting the soap opera actor who knowing his gun was loaded with blanks put the barrel to his head and pulled the trigger; he was killed. I’m not too sure how the death came about – concussion (it can kill) or some wad that was in the gun in place of the bullet (the blank), but it was a stupid stunt that led to a death.

In the same way, when I raised roses, a very respected and well known rose grower put a new insecticide at the time (Orthene) into an iced tea glass and accidentally drank it! How he could have done this when the stuff stank to high heaven, I don’t know. But immediately the “nanny staters” wanted to outlaw pesticides in general and Orthene in particular – when the episode was the fault of the man who stupidly put a poison in a drinking glass and then more stupidly drank it!

Unless the fellow who fired the bullet had mental problems, I would assume it was just another example of stupidity. Unfortunately, if we are going to imprison all the stupid people in this country or all the folks who act stupidly, well …. Neither can we legislate safety – we’ve tried it and all that it leads to is greater interference in our lives by the government – certainly not something who has any respect for personal liberty should wish.

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By: PHW https://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044&cpage=1#comment-34643 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:07:38 +0000 http://civilwarcavalry.com/?p=1044#comment-34643 Whoever did it needs to get his rifle busted over his head.

My dad was nearly speared by a fired ramrod at South Mountain in 1987….and ramrods were supposed to have been removed from rifles for that 125th event.

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